Are you enjoying this?

[Coffex]

Are you actually having fun in pvp? If so please explain why you are enjoying it. If you are not enjoying it, please explain why.

Seems the general consensus I am hearing is that the pvp is worse than before. More cheating, more win trading, and all around just poor ranking system. People are playing hundreds of matches with w/l of 50/50 and stuck in bronze rank.

I would like to hear what people enjoy about it. We have heard plenty of people complain about the things listed above, but what do you actually enjoy? They are making balance changes so its hard to say its balanced. They have openly admitted to rampant cheating so its hard to say its competitive.

I want to enjoy pvp in this game. Explain to me how you are having fun, perhaps we can all try to do what you are doing and you can help others enjoy this system.

[SeiyaSoiya]

If you play pvp for fun, it won't last long, the kits are rather simple and the excitement of rng based wins or losses wears off quite quickly.
If you play to climb and get better, it's not meant to be fun, ranked in any competitive pvp game is about getting serious and going tryhard, it doesn't really matter if the game is balanced, you play to overcome the challenge.
personally? I'm trying to hit crystal, I am poopsocking dragoon and since this is solo queue only there is no social interaction to be had, this is a lone endeavor that feels a lot like work, but since I'm obsessed with it, I just soldier on
fun will come later once I can afford to try out new classes and actually learn the game, for now all I need to do is keep playing more and more games until I make it.

[Burmecia]

If you play pvp for fun, it won't last long

...ok

anyway
i've been able to enjoy pvp and i think i continue doing so by, like

having opinion position(??) that these are just cool, virtual version of capture the flag or tag

like games we used to play as kids outdoors. it got rowdy there sometimes. it gets rowdy here too, sometimes. but it's fun. to me, but surely i'm not the only one?

but no point in hanging all of your enjoyment, ego, worth and any serious answer of life and universe on videogame pvp

i quickly gave up on ranked because i have no time to pour that much time into it. or skill. season levels are enough for me. look, shiny!

(since 6.1: archfiend sets farmed for 2 characters, 3rd comign together nicely, 1 set of garo horses gotten, one alt got 2/3 so that is coming together nicely)

[Flamvell]

Don't take it serious. That's all. Grind your rewards in CC, enjoy the battle itself and don't give a damn about ranked until the next series season.

[Dionysius]

It's quite different for me because what I am hearing from people in-game, reddit, youtube, etc (except forum) has been very positive. Everyone I know that never touch The Feast are now playing PVP on daily basis (including FL).

The pros (fun/engaging/fast/unique jobs/less-frustration/rewards) out-weight the cons (cheating/spam/win-trading).
Probably because I got to Crystal without meeting any cheater/win-traders.

I'd say if someone stucked in Bronze, maybe it's time to change strategy/jobs, don't think it's the game's fault.

[Commander_Justitia]

I don't think there is more cheating or wintrading, just more new people in PvP. New people don't like when they lose and search for reasons why they lose, because it isn't them, it must be cheating. Also the rng matchmaking doesn't help I agree with that. I played all of the old PvP, and I know at least for EU, the cheating and wintrading issues were not as big as the community made it sound like. You just don't get affected by it much here, not a specific reason to quit PvP over it. (its a way bigger problem in PvE btw even if that is not against other players)

I personally didn't like PvP gameplay anymore since they seperated it from PvE skills during heavensward/stormblood, but the memes and situations are still fun that come out of it. Imagine everyone in clown costumes and makeup while Benny Hill theme runs in the background, that is like the peak gameplay here.

[Dionysius]

But I hope they're taking more stern stance against cheater/win-trader.

[LowIQ]

I want to enjoy pvp in this game.

Now is a bad time for this.
Before the revamp we had pvp modes like rival wings and frontline to play casually for fun but now it's all about crystal conflict. RW got canned completely and FL doesn't go well with how the new pvp is designed.

[MsMisato]

Now is a bad time for this.
Before the revamp we had pvp modes like rival wings and frontline to play casually for fun but now it's all about crystal conflict. RW got canned completely and FL doesn't go well with how the new pvp is designed.

I think Frontline is more fun now. Sure jobs need tweaking but the skills have a better flow and its nice to see people actually playing. I love that the matches are neck and neck. As before I did say they need to get rid of the Shattered map, no one really likes that map. I also hope they redo Rival Wings because it was a blast when you get people on both sides that know how to play that partricular PvP style.

[AlexSag]

I had an amazing time with CC when it first launched, hated it when I was trying to rank up on PLD, but am really enjoying it again now that I'm just playing casual matches. Aside from the cheating, I don't think the game is balanced enough to try to take ranking up seriously on certain jobs.