Party changes moving forward for 8-man content

[Xaphire]

Likely won't change, the Tank, Healer, DPS paradigm is comfortable enough that it just works. Other games *have* tried to move away from it, but generally were never really well received. I suggest you take some time and experience some of the more difficult content that makes better use of the three class-types (admittedly, healers are in a pretty boring place right now).

As previously expressed, P3S has both tanks taking auto attacks after a certain point in the fight. The casted tank-buster is on two targets. There are many tank busters that require the tanks either swap, or to use their invuln to survive.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Or an alternative would be to just make the fights require two tanks. P3S is how I wish most fights were designed, where the OT is also steadily taking auto attacks. This ups healer engagement since we now have to watch both tanks’ HP bars—and, honestly, the OT in P3S takes far more damage than the MT does.


As it stands now, 2 tanks, 1 healer, and 5 DPS would work far better as a party comp. You barely need 1 healer in a lot of fights. 2 is needlessly redundant considering how low the healing requirements are.

You play with people far more skilled than I apparently.

We definitely wouldn't be able to solo heal any of the savage fights.

[Ath192]

that's old garbage design, we are at a point that we are well past that, most of the times the second tank it's just a blue dps. might as well remove it completetly and add a 5 dps.

If by old you mean the new Ult that just came out yesterday then sure? I don't think its garbage though.

[Jeeqbit]

You can do a lot of dungeons with 4 DPS already. I once did Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium each with 8 DPS and we were successful. Ultima was challenging but we found a way to beat it the second time.

What you learn about removing either tanks or healers is that the game becomes a lot more fun. I would want to remove tanks, personally, because then enemies would run all over the place like Rathalos.

[Insertusernamehere]

You can do a lot of dungeons with 4 DPS already. I once did Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium each with 8 DPS and we were successful. Ultima was challenging but we found a way to beat it the second time.

What you learn about removing either tanks or healers is that the game becomes a lot more fun. I would want to remove tanks, personally, because then enemies would run all over the place like Rathalos.

Lost Ark player?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You can do a lot of dungeons with 4 DPS already. I once did Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium each with 8 DPS and we were successful. Ultima was challenging but we found a way to beat it the second time.

What you learn about removing either tanks or healers is that the game becomes a lot more fun. I would want to remove tanks, personally, because then enemies would run all over the place like Rathalos.

See, GW2 tried to do that, and encounters were rather bland and easy. It didn't add any depth to combat and they ended up adding a form of trinity back later for raids

[Jeeqbit]

Lost Ark player?

Never played it. What's it like?

[HyoMinPark]

You play with people far more skilled than I apparently.

We definitely wouldn't be able to solo heal any of the savage fights.

Strictly speaking, the healing requirements are low everywhere. In Savage, and especially outside of it. Since the OP only specified “8-man content” and not “8-man Savage content”, having 2 healers in anything non-Savage is even more redundant than having 2 in most Savage fights. A half-competent one can solo heal and maintain steady damage on their own in normal 8-mans. The second healer is basically a gimped DPS, so might as well replace them with an actual DPS.

It doesn’t take nearly as much skill as you’re implying for one healer to handle all of the healing in regular 8-man content.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Strictly speaking, the healing requirements are low everywhere. In Savage, and especially outside of it. Since the OP only specified “8-man content” and not “8-man Savage content”, having 2 healers in anything non-Savage is even more redundant than have 2 in most Savage fights. A half-competent one can solo heal and maintain steady damage on their own in normal 8-mans. The second healer is basically a gimped DPS, so might as well replace them with an actual DPS.

It doesn’t take nearly as much skill as you’re implying for one healer to handle all of the healing in regular 8-man content.

I figured you were just talking savage since you started talking about p3s

[Insertusernamehere]

Never played it. What's it like?

It is not bad, similar to what you say no distinct classes only a few classes have minor different abilities. I only dislike game because of their cash shop system, but game good.