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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    What? Healer is required? What is this wonderland located at?

    /s
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    Kuroh Usagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    What? Healer is required? What is this wonderland located at?

    /s
    The circles of Hell in the world unsundered back when healers actually healed.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Take this idea even further considering this game current combat design.

    8 Dps. There you go c:
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    Pikalovr The-shocking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Take this idea even further considering this game current combat design.

    8 Dps. There you go c:
    sad part is you joke but aside from healers having almost no DPS buttons tanks are basically DPS with a guaranteed enmity generator which we could easily go back to the old enmity system and have tanks as DPS just with acccess to more self defensive capabilities and more enmity on hit generators/skills

    healers owuld prolly end up more support DPS with some emergency hela skills but mostly focusing on buffs/debuffs

    all jobs would have more responsibility some better at party wide mits some better at handling solo damage etc...kinda like how MNK was a really good party wide mitigation melee DPS thanks to the bonus healing recieved he could slap on everyone

    sad part is we're heading to that route but with less interesting stuff to keep us playing each role at this point. (not to mention hell even speedrunning dungeons with premades don't even take healers) you may as well just dismiss the trinity tbh if it helps us get a ltitle more life into the game so be it i really wish they wouldn't do it tbh but they aren't exactly helping themselves here
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    Echo Micacho
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    Will never happen ever and the reason for that is cause it would make a whole bunch of mechanics and possible bossdesign impossible for which two tanks would be needed like two adds or well look at every fight in the entire game lol there are countless trials where two tanks are needed, you can't even beat Bismarck without 2 tanks.

    So yeah nice idea but i don't think the devs give up half of their designkit for trials etc.
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Likely won't change, the Tank, Healer, DPS paradigm is comfortable enough that it just works. Other games *have* tried to move away from it, but generally were never really well received. I suggest you take some time and experience some of the more difficult content that makes better use of the three class-types (admittedly, healers are in a pretty boring place right now).

    As previously expressed, P3S has both tanks taking auto attacks after a certain point in the fight. The casted tank-buster is on two targets. There are many tank busters that require the tanks either swap, or to use their invuln to survive.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    You can do a lot of dungeons with 4 DPS already. I once did Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium each with 8 DPS and we were successful. Ultima was challenging but we found a way to beat it the second time.

    What you learn about removing either tanks or healers is that the game becomes a lot more fun. I would want to remove tanks, personally, because then enemies would run all over the place like Rathalos.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Misha Fiertze
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You can do a lot of dungeons with 4 DPS already. I once did Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium each with 8 DPS and we were successful. Ultima was challenging but we found a way to beat it the second time.

    What you learn about removing either tanks or healers is that the game becomes a lot more fun. I would want to remove tanks, personally, because then enemies would run all over the place like Rathalos.
    Lost Ark player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertusernamehere View Post
    Lost Ark player?
    Never played it. What's it like?
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Misha Fiertze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Never played it. What's it like?
    It is not bad, similar to what you say no distinct classes only a few classes have minor different abilities. I only dislike game because of their cash shop system, but game good.
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