DPS/Healers pulling in dungeons

[Broken_Wind]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

[Padudu]

Idk it's always been like that for me (I came back during ShB). Just pop sprint zoom and go, it's not a big deal

[Feayn]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

I see this on EU data center too :/

[Aurora_Sylphy]

I mean, yeah, rushing ahead when you are pulling mobs in a wall to wall pull is a pain and sucks, but really, it's a single AOE or two from the tank to get aggro back again. If they die by the time you get to them, well, that's on them (assuming you made an attempt to get aggro off them, that is, you beat the boss, you pause for like half a min or even like 10-20 secs to do something and they facepull before you get back, leading to them dying before you get aggro back again. A YPYT situation is unacceptable and you're griefing at that point tho).

If this was back in Stromblood and pre-Stormblood days where aggro management was a much bigger issue (what with two tank stances, TP hindering maximum spamming/uptime of AOE depending on damage output, abilities generating a lot more threat and aggro) it would be an issue, but it is, as I mentioned, just an AOE or two away from getting full threat back with tank stance on. Hell, even your tank ranged ability will get pack aggro back in like a hit or two (since the ability itself has increased enmity generation). To be fair, I have rarely seen it (I'm on Zurvan), but when it does happen honestly the simplest and most straightforward thing is to just bite the bullet and deal with it. It's a dungeon with like a 20min average time, and you probably won;t see them after that. Backlist them I guess if they really piss you off (by not stopping when you ask kindly), though I do think that would be a bit of an overreaction to a minor inconvenience.

[Nethereal]

Hello darkness my old friend~

[Shibi]

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

It's always been there on NA servers. Likely EU too.

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[MoofiaBossVal]

DPS and healers pulling isn't really a big deal. FFXIV is very easy and non-punishing. It's not like WoW where mobs burn through player HP in a few seconds and people get mad if a wipe happens because repair bills are expensive. Pulling raid bosses would sorta be a big deal because you're wasting a lot more people's time, and the money they dropped on potions.

[Broken_Wind]

DPS and healers pulling isn't really a big deal. FFXIV is very easy and non-punishing. It's not like WoW where mobs burn through player HP in a few seconds and people get mad if a wipe happens because repair bills are expensive. Pulling raid bosses would sorta be a big deal because you're wasting a lot more people's time, and the money they dropped on potions.

Yes and no.

A lot of people like to tank because they enjoy pulling too
The more dps do this, the less people tank and the longer the queue times can be

[Anhra]

I just let the clown keep the ad he/she pulls. If you really want to be a pseudo tank, be my guest and if you want to tank a Boss as DPS or Healer, i totally dont mind dropping Tank Stance for this. At least it keeps things spiced up in the normally boring Dungeon Runs.

[Vencio]

I don’t look,

Usually it tingles my senses whenever a poor soul ushers ahead of me, so I pause from tanking & let them understand,

I don’t look