Give us more Thief Maps!

[WickedFaith]

Maybe giving us guaranteed portal maps for level 70 maps if they're not going to add thief maps to other newer maps would help?
An increase in odds would be even better.

I have only 2 thief map clears, and it's certainly not for lack of trying.
It is nice to have rare titles and achievements to work towards... but rare does not have to mean impossible.
I'm all for not making the game easy mode as that takes away from the feeling of accomplishment . . . but I think we need to realize when something is no longer viable, adjustments should be made.

[InabaSunshine]

I sincerely love the idea of a very prestigious achievement and title to work towards over the long term, especially one that you really have to work towards and put full effort into. I'm always in favor of rewarding a player for overcoming a challenge, it's what makes a lot of MMO's fun!

However, I think that these maps have a bit of an overlook on their odds, and just how incredibly hard and RNG it is to obtain and progress through these maps to the end. I'm extremely happy square thought to put an achievement into the game with the mindset of "If you're very much into doing this content, this is your top end achievement". But I think the numbers here are simply too skewed towards "Failing" to be fair, or fun. I think everybody in this thread is here not wanting this to be more easy, but just exactly that; fair and fun.

Adding these maps to different types of content, or relooking at how these maps are handled, might be a great long term effect on maps as a hole.

I've seen some insane statistics in this thread, and I think it's fair to say there should be at least a discussion about this type of map.

[Asuka-Hykiri]

Still no clear, almost at .65% clear rate too! (Yay for 'casual' content!)

At this rate, another 2000 thief maps and I might be done... 'MIGHT'

[ServerCollaps]

too bad you are not EU, I still have 60 thief maps with me xD

[Asuka-Hykiri]

too bad you are not EU, I still have 60 thief maps with me xD

'MIGHT' give us a clear, not had a clear in 208 maps (2 1/2 months)

[Asuka-Hykiri]

One new food for thought from the stats page of Lalachievements (https://lalachievements.com/rarity/achievement/global/)

Of the 165210 users of Lalachievements:

The Deeper End IV - 0.019 % (31 chars)
The Deeper End III - 0.03 % (49 chars)

Bearing in mind that most people that will go for 20 clears would be achievement hunters, I'd bet that of the 35.8 million users, that number is still going to be very close (if not still exactly) 31 and 49 repectively.

[ServerCollaps]

I guess its manageable when you work together with others. I solo farmed 70 thief maps in ~1 month with bluemage (I occasionally did 300 gazelle maps every now and then). Have some other people to party up that do the same and you have 500 thief maps per month to try

[Asuka-Hykiri]

It really isn't managable. 300 maps in, still no clear. And could potentially go an infinite amount of time before anothers seen at this point.

[Asuka-Hykiri]

IT'S A MIRACLE!



Only took 2 months, 3 weeks to get another clear!