In Game Housing Crisis

[Padudu]

Thanks for demonstrating how you can't just offer two identical products for the same price. Didn't think you would concede so easily.

Hopefully, you will be able to reflect on how SE can't simply make apartments the equivalent of a house while also not tossing a bone to house owners. Do your worst.

??? Don't know why you're being so argumentative because I said apartments and houses aren't very comparable. :^) Literally all this mald for a same old statement not even directed at you. Sure, bro. I'm sure the only solution we have is this ganked housing system. Hope SE pays you well for that quality spit shining.

[Big_Bap]

and there's Bap's website plug after explaining why no one should be able to have a house.

Someone has to educate you somehow. Who are you again?

[Themarvin]

That's just adding more wards in a roundabout way, not everyone would want what you are proposing, plus with housing wards already being dead anyways, I don't know how the idea you're suggesting alleviates this in any form. Sounds like it'd end up being an even LARGER dead area. I'm pretty sure console isn't holding housing back in any way shape or form. As for my criticism of the housing situation it's pretty straight forward, as it stands it's awful, lottery fixed absolutely nothing, we simply need more wards or instanced housing or both, the FC/personal ward split is awful, there should be more larges and mediums per ward. Smalls are relatively unpopular in both FC and Personal wards. Apartments/fc rooms don't constitute as an appropriate alternative for a vast majority of players (we want our own personal houses, not a FC house where maybe someone's idea isn't implemented fully, i.e. 5 friends in a FC try to combine all their ideas at least 1 person is going to be slightly unhappy, but our own space that we either decorate or have someone decorate). As for being in a FC completely by yourself, that doesn't sound pleasant, since this game is about being social.

But you do want more housing, don't you? Then what is the issue with what I post especially about the last part?

I suggested to increase the sizes of the current wards and placing more plots in them, rather than adding more wards as it is, it is already a labyrinth gettin from A to B and you could save more resources having all or more in the same area as it is.

As for current housing system, maybe 40% if the houses is actually used and most of those is semi active FC's

[Aldotsk]

I am satisfied that players get to choose to pick a permanent solution to their housing need

The only thing I am not satisfied with is the fact that after 8 years, personal housing is still allowed to compete with FC housing, when we were told the two would be separated. Ironically, you people are complaining about FC housing when in reality, the total amount of available plots is 125,000 higher than the total amount of FCs that exist to this day. If Yoshipizza would have stayed true to his word, this forum would be way more peaceful while also less entertaining.

It's hilarious seeing you people getting worked over housing when you disregard everything that's been given or how your own greed for personal housing, which btw has absolutely no value compared to FC housing, is the reason why you are complaining in the first place.

See that bolded letters I've made for your quote? You are basically contradicting yourself while you had been whining and crying about how this housing system ruined it for you by applying personal/FC together 8-9 years ago. Now, for those who never got to have a house due to bad broken system, they are experiencing SAME thing as you did. Try tasting your own medicine for what you've just said.

You OWN your house(s). and You have the nerve to say people are posting their complaint for being "greedy" for wanting something equally distributed, which should never be gated to begin with.

Also your census data is extremely outdated. Shows how you care less about others wanting housing but for your own. Starting to feel that you are one of those who flip them and want to feel justified that you are innocent in your bubbles after reading that post.

[VerdeLuck]

But you do want more housing, don't you? Then what is the issue with what I post especially about the last part?

I suggested to increase the sizes of the current wards and placing more plots in them, rather than adding more wards as it is, it is already a labyrinth gettin from A to B and you could save more resources having all or more in the same area as it is.

As for current housing system, maybe 40% if the houses is actually used and most of those is semi active FC's

Having more wards or bigger wards is pretty moot, all housing wards need to be loaded 100% of the time anyway so it's 6 here half a dozen there on how you do it in terms of resources.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

I mean we're essentially screwed either way.

If they open up the FC smalls after the current fix, it means you're only getting whatever scraps the FCs didn't want. If they keep it FC only there's still going to be a few emptys in most the wards because a lot of the smalls had 0 bids on Ishgard for FC wards.

Either way the deed is done and the one chance at housing is gone now until the next additional district/ward happens, or unless Island Sanctuary is getting delayed because they're trying to implement that as the solution to all the issues from apartments and such.

If Island sanctuary is an outdoor place we can farm, make seeds, and run the other housing locked content as well decorate in literally any way that's instanced, it will be more than enough for me. Having a small "build area" in the middle of the active zones for whatever features they're adding in it would also suffice for me. so long as we could tweak the indoors a bit.

I keep hoping that the delays are because they're trying to do such a thing, but I know I'll be disappointed haha.

[Themarvin]

Having more wards or bigger wards is pretty moot, all housing wards need to be loaded 100% of the time anyway so it's 6 here half a dozen there on how you do it in terms of resources.

SE could create get together areas in those bigger wards, such as vendors for this and that other than in general housing for more activity as well as actual things to do other than standing in limsa or whatever hub.

[iiTzSeb]

There are a large number of apartments available, whether they are in an FC house or in residential areas, they all work similar to what you say, even small houses are easy to get
Honestly there is no problem with housing, there is only a problem of greed. Everyone wants a palace. This is the real problem.

This response was so tone-deaf that even MY ears popped for a second, jfc

[iiTzSeb]

watching wards sit half empty for 4.2 to 4.4, as an example

It's been half a decade since Stormblood and slightly less than that since those patches. The playerbase has grown exponentially since, the problem has worsened because people aren't taking it seriously and the dev team has barely touched the real issue since then except to make it moderately worse with a lottery that will only get worse with time.

[Big_Bap]

See that bolded letters I've made for your quote? You are basically contradicting yourself while you had been whining and crying about how this housing system ruined it for you by applying personal/FC together 8-9 years ago. Now, for those who never got to have a house due to bad broken system, they are experiencing SAME thing as you did. Try tasting your own medicine for what you've just said.

You OWN your house(s). and You have the nerve to say people are posting their complaint for being "greedy" for wanting something equally distributed, which should never be gated to begin with.

Also your census data is extremely outdated. Shows how you care less about others wanting housing but for your own. Starting to feel that you are one of those who flip them and want to feel justified that you are innocent in your bubbles after reading that post.

"whining and crying"? Really? Do you see me post in every other thread about how I hate Square Enix for doing this? No. I point out the fact that we're here because of that decision and I've accepted said decision almost a decade ago. The rest of your paragraph is therefore irrelevant. Furthermore, how does the two bolded parts contradict themselves? I'm happy people can buy an apartment and not have to worry about it being demolished while also being unhappy that the personal housing, which is worthless compared to FC housing, is so spread out.

Regarding your second paragraph, you obviously didn't bother reading. Or maybe you did, but the comprehension never came? Personal housing is inherently more greedy than FC housing because personal houses cannot be used to prime FC buffs and have no access to a workshop. As a result, personal houses are merely glorified FC rooms or apartments with only crossbreeding as a benefit. You ever took a stroll in random wards? I'll let you in on some insider information... hardly anybody does crossbreeding.

Finally, how is it outdated? It was obtained last weekend! I cannot wait for you to answer that last one. LMAO