Match quality is a joke

[rofland]

Crystal is indistinguishable from unranked/bronze. Please bring back the old Feast brackets.

[KageTokage]

I do feel like they needed to come up with a system that can curate players based partly on their actual performance in a match because there's been so many instances of ending up with people who don't know how to stay alive or push buttons in general and have jarringly low damage dealt/healed values at the end of the match.

[GayRobot]

I really hope they tighten this up for next season. Hand out rewards however you want (as long as it doesn't become the giant mess that is Frontline Roulette), but the matchmaker needs to be able to correctly track winrate and adjust accordingly. The aggressive upward tendency hurts everyone.

Ranking and server ticrate are my only substantial problems with CC. You're so close, Square!

[aeoncs]

Crystal is indistinguishable from unranked/bronze. Please bring back the old Feast brackets.

People reaching Crystal with a 30-40% win rate really says it all. The old Feast ranking system had a lot of issues as well, albeit less so in seasons 1-3, but the quality of high ranked matches was on a completely different level - though to be fair, part of that was due to the much smaller playerbase.

A system that saves you from dropping down an entire tier is a good idea but it shouldn't be absolute - once your win rate is below 50%, you absolutely should drop down.

[SeiyaSoiya]

this wouldn't be a problem if there were premades

[Anhra]

You Guys arent entitled for any rewards or victories in PvP, be glad that the Series malmstones are even a thing or else u would go out pretty much empty handed.

If you really want to improve Match quality, start with yourself and dont be a Metaslave like the rest and play the Job you enjoy the most and try to become better at it. It takes commitment, as well as trial and error. If you think playing on easy mode with Jobs such as WAR, WHM and RDM will get you far, then you will always be predictable no matter how good your numbers look like.

[aeoncs]

You Guys arent entitled for any rewards or victories in PvP, be glad that the Series malmstones are even a thing or else u would go out pretty much empty handed.

If you really want to improve Match quality, start with yourself and dont be a Metaslave like the rest and play the Job you enjoy the most and try to become better at it. It takes commitment, as well as trial and error. If you think playing on easy mode with Jobs such as WAR, WHM and RDM will get you far, then you will always be predictable no matter how good your numbers look like.

Are you okay? We're literally talking about matchmaking here, where did this rant even come from? I swear, every time I read one of your posts I always think "okay, this guy can't possibly make any less sense", yet you keep surprising me.

[KageTokage]

You Guys arent entitled for any rewards or victories in PvP, be glad that the Series malmstones are even a thing or else u would go out pretty much empty handed.

If you really want to improve Match quality, start with yourself and dont be a Metaslave like the rest and play the Job you enjoy the most and try to become better at it. It takes commitment, as well as trial and error. If you think playing on easy mode with Jobs such as WAR, WHM and RDM will get you far, then you will always be predictable no matter how good your numbers look like.

You really need to drop this "git gud" attitude that it's always the fault of the people complaining that they're not winning more.

Playing out of your mind isn't going to matter if the rest of your team doesn't understand fundamentals like not isolating yourself to become an easy target, not using elixirs to recover MP between engagements, using LoS to force ranged to approach, focus fire, etc.

The bottom line is that ranking up presently feels like a total crapshoot because the game has no way of determining which players are actually better/worse then others. It would be nice if the game could somehow determine what the average amount of damage contribution for a given role is and perhaps try to group you up with people of similar performance based on how much higher/lower then that value you tend to be, because avoiding death is naturally going to result in higher contribution assuming you're actually hitting your buttons and not excessively playing chicken to avoid taking damage.

I would rather not be matched up with suicidal player number who-knows-what who gap closes into the enemy team at the start of the match then expects not to get instantly melted without popping guard.

[Anhra]

Are you okay? We're literally talking about matchmaking here, where did this rant even come from? I swear, every time I read one of your posts I always think "okay, this guy can't possibly make any less sense", yet you keep surprising me.

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

[aeoncs]

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

You clearly never played Feast during the early seasons. There wasn't a single player in the top 100, let alone in Diamond or Platinum, with a <50% win rate. That coupled with you only being matched with people of your own tier, as well as 1+- respectively, guaranteed a mostly very good and balanced experience in higher rated games; with the flipside being that you barely got to play as a DPS or even a Tank because of the smaller playerbase and fixed roles. Still, I'd argue that quality over quantity is a good thing, we just need a middle ground now.

Your post is objectively pointless given the context. Literally no one was talking about the Meta, nor does it have anything to do with the vast difference in skill between players who are literally playing in the same bracket/tier.

How is the matchmaking fine when you have players who brute-forced their way into specific tiers by just playing nonstop and waiting for a few win streaks? Even in Crystal you regularly face and play with players who would have peaked in Gold or Platinum with a proper ranking system and matchmaking.

It's a complete disaster right now and definitely needs some significant changes if they ever want FFXIVs PvP to be taken even remotely seriously. That and the cheating issues, I still think that most of the wintrading will resolve itself if they fix the rest.