a full lengthy discussion about reporting and actions taken against accounts.

[Insertusernamehere]

so what is EROTIC if not MILD then? LMFAO. you all are acting like i was ERPing in public or advertising my FC when in fact i was not doing either. I wasnt even in town for more than an hour over the course of this entire week because i was too busy preparing for Ultimate. And if it is a PEGI 13 game, why did they add a strip club and a stripper pole to the game then, sexually suggestive emotes and clothing?

They must set game age +16 or (+18 for some countries) or reconsider "In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made." part, if there is more than one person exist it is no longer "private". Your friend(s) can report you and say "I had no intention for this kind of RP" which conflicts with "In general, all expressions of an obscene/indecent nature are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued."

It is just my opinion..

Your can try get answer from SE: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=77536

[Feayn]

Seriously?

SFW links btw.
Tammy Rose (goes by other aliases like Tammy, Tommy, etc)
Julia Taylor

What is “telling” is how dumb this is. I wouldn’t be surprised if these were all your alts in a 1 man FC.

I need to say...I opened the link from you with the FC Member list and the one guy with the name "Nymph" at the begin hears like... uff... the name it's not good, @Ghostwk :/

[HisShadowX]

You know very well what the ordinary meaning of ERP is in a role playing game and pretending otherwise when your fc is filled with characters using porn stars names (btw there’s also a rule about using names of third parties) is taking people for fools.


No, it doesn’t say that. All it says is that SE won’t take action against “mildly sexual expressions used between a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area” if such expressions are not reported. In other words, they will take action if it is reported (it is at your own risk and the TOS are clear) and/or if they are not just “mild” sexual expressions.

Concerning those “mild sexual expressions” the TOS also indicate that . The tolerance comes at multiple conditions which I listed above.

The TOS also say

Really, how hard is it to understand? The game is rated PG-13 and SE has a responsibility of keeping it so.

Video games are not rated PG-13 but the game is rated T for teens.

https://i.redd.it/c8qwhdpfimr21.png

However, the game is noted for Sexual Themes and Partial Nudity.

I'm old enough to remember when calling a person a twink in video games was basically an insult because its calling someone "gay" and a twink considered the bottom of the community. Basically, it was calling cheaters and those who paid for boosts 'gay' as an insult. But being that Europeans and some other gamers were clueless about this insult they started to equate Twink not as an insult or slur, but rather as just a booster or cheater forgetting the original reason why someone was called a Twink. I remember when a gaming company who used to make cheats for the Codebreaker renamed their company Codetwink and went out of buisness because the owner didn't know at that time what the majority of people considered the term twink.

The problem is ERP as a term is what I would consider new. Most normal people or a lot of gamers might not understand what it is. The reason why staff and people on the forums on FFXIV know what it is, is because people in FFXIV are flagrant with it and popularized it. In the forums a year or two ago when staff started banning and suspending people there were posters here condemning staff for not accept people and guilds who ERPG for Gil.

Back in the days when World of Warcraft was popular before CATA ruined it someone who was offering special services in the tram was called a hooker or prostitute.

Also the grand majority of people in the NA in fact 99.9% of us don't know what the word Bollocks is and will never care to. All we know is when we see weird people saying Bollocks this and Bollocks that they are foreigners. Which is why I recommend separating forums due to the fact there is cultural and regional differences and there are slangs that never of us understand. Most likely the word Twink was taken from Europeans who didn't know it was used as a gay slur to insult cheaters and they just took it as just a regular insult not understanding the meaning of cheaters.

[Ghostwk]

Seriously?

SFW links btw.
Tammy Rose (goes by other aliases like Tammy, Tommy, etc)
Julia Taylor

I am not going to link their social media or FFXI profiles, but the fact that you looked up those names and tried to force your agenda says enough to me to know what kind of person you are. again, im going to have to ask you to stop spreading rumors and misinformation. Both the surname and forename of both are clearly common names. And now you are attacking my friends who have nothing to do with any of this so i am just going to block you honestly.

[Ghostwk]

I need to say...I opened the link from you with the FC Member list and the one guy with the name "Nymph" at the begin hears like... uff... the name it's not good, @Ghostwk :/

as far as i know it is the name of one of her favorite songs iirc.
and again, she has not played since i the year i inherited the FC. the inactive days on her name in the FC list is stuck at 1604 because its been way longer than that.

I dont have any alts btw. Those are all friends, alts of friends, or friends of friends, most of which i know IRL as i have said many times now. SO i think i would know if there were other people using adult actress names.

[Ghostwk]

Video games are not rated PG-13 but the game is rated T for teens.

https://i.redd.it/c8qwhdpfimr21.png

However, the game is noted for Sexual Themes and Partial Nudity.

I'm old enough to remember when calling a person a twink in video games was basically an insult because its calling someone "gay" and a twink considered the bottom of the community. Basically, it was calling cheaters and those who paid for boosts 'gay' as an insult. But being that Europeans and some other gamers were clueless about this insult they started to equate Twink not as an insult or slur, but rather as just a booster or cheater forgetting the original reason why someone was called a Twink. I remember when a gaming company who used to make cheats for the Codebreaker renamed their company Codetwink and went out of buisness because the owner didn't know at that time what the majority of people considered the term twink.

The problem is ERP as a term is what I would consider new. Most normal people or a lot of gamers might not understand what it is. The reason why staff and people on the forums on FFXIV know what it is, is because people in FFXIV are flagrant with it and popularized it. In the forums a year or two ago when staff started banning and suspending people there were posters here condemning staff for not accept people and guilds who ERPG for Gil.

Back in the days when World of Warcraft was popular before CATA ruined it someone who was offering special services in the tram was called a hooker or prostitute.

Also the grand majority of people in the NA in fact 99.9% of us don't know what the word Bollocks is and will never care to. All we know is when we see weird people saying Bollocks this and Bollocks that they are foreigners. Which is why I recommend separating forums due to the fact there is cultural and regional differences and there are slangs that never of us understand. Most likely the word Twink was taken from Europeans who didn't know it was used as a gay slur to insult cheaters and they just took it as just a regular insult not understanding the meaning of cheaters.

yeah, as i said, i was in the process of changing everything right as i got pulled into GM jail because i had just added a couple new members and the rest of us who still do play were talking about actually inviting more people to play with and trying to make our own static for Ultimate instead of joining ones separately. Boosted Twink rank was made because a lot of my friends played wow and PVP'd a lot and "twinking" is the term commonly used for alts that get certain gear sets stay at a certain level to "farm" newer players and boost their rank up quickly.

but it originates from Roleplaying and Tabletop RP games anyway, which is why i used it as a rank. Everything is based off of actual roleplaying elements because we all did GTA RP or some other form or fashion of RP in the past and always goof off when we play FFXIV and roleplay along with the game as we are the WoL as some of them have toruble keeping interest with the MSQ etc so we try to make it more engaging and fun by going through it together and acting out the scenes with our own voices in discord lol

[LisSquid]

I love this thread. Excellent reading.

There's a similar FC on Hyperion with the [ERP] tag. Wonder whats going on with that in light of this.

[cooker]

Ghostwk, why are you fighting with everyone about this still? You made a post about how you thought your suspension and the process was wrong/unfair, people disagreed with you and told you what rules you violated. You can try making the same arguments to the GMs or whoever handles the appeals, but we aren't those people, we are just fellow players telling you why we think this happened to you as you do not believe you crossed any lines. You wanted to share your opinions here and you did so, people responded with their opinions, which are generally more in line with what the GMs said is their position.

I'm sure it sucks to be suspended, but the suspension will end and you'll get to play again. Just be a little more cautious/tamer with your public facing conduct in the game and you'll be fine.

[Ghostwk]

Ghostwk, why are you fighting with everyone about this still? You made a post about how you thought your suspension and the process was wrong/unfair, people disagreed with you and told you what rules you violated. You can try making the same arguments to the GMs or whoever handles the appeals, but we aren't those people, we are just fellow players telling you why we think this happened to you as you do not believe you crossed any lines. You wanted to share your opinions here and you did so, people responded with their opinions, which are generally more in line with what the GMs said is their position.

I'm sure it sucks to be suspended, but the suspension will end and you'll get to play again. Just be a little more cautious/tamer with your public facing conduct in the game and you'll be fine.

oh dont worry, i will have absolutely no personality and delete every single thing from my profile, my adventure plate, and the FC after this suspension is over or if it is overturned. i am not willing to risk my character anymore for expression when the grey area and the EULA is so messed up that it will favor any and everyone who even feels slightly offended or wronged and will favor them, especially when i have 2 offenses now.

I am not really fighting with anyone, but people are starting to try and witchhunt and derail so i am defending my friends as well as clarifying the wrong information they are trying to force to be truth. They are bringing up IRL friends and such that have nothing to do with this.

[Thorio]

I love this thread. Excellent reading.

There's a similar FC on Hyperion with the [ERP] tag. Wonder whats going on with that in light of this.

I (unfortunately lol) saw it. Didn't check further to see if it's a "play on words" as op did with theirs tho.