PVP Change patch notes are out

[Jybril]

The WHM nerf is okay but not enough imo. The main issue is the Poly.
Purify NEEDS to be able to cleanse it.
The fact you're Poly'd and then immediately stunned from the LB there is just no way out.
I almost feel like that has to be an oversight because WHM's entire kit is just loaded
but seeing as they didn't do anything...

For that Poly nerf, we still need Purify to also be working correctly and it still doesn't.
So right now it's a small nerf overall that's hindered by Purify imho.

[Zied]

Flare/Freeze need a bigger radius imo

[FALCSMASH]

Whm nerf now makes whm kills amost impossible. It was not broken. Just the loudest mouths and complaints think it was broken. How about banning the cheaters???

[Tobias_Azuryon]

GNB still sucks, or I suck, or my party sucks. It feels absolutely crappy to be unable to 1v1 a BRD of all things and despite doing the most healing/damage in the party still get stomped super often. As expected I rarely feel the speed buff because I'm not usually chasing across the map anyways and if I am I'm leaving myself vulnerable.

Watching yourself get obliterated during LB because server decides not to end it when you're slamming the button so it goes off/stun animation goes off but you just die anyways sucks and the DPS just isn't enough for how much the other classes can do to wreck you.

No Mercy window feels awful and shouldn't be tied to a gap closer (whose idea was that lol). Doubledown just being flat damage and limited to area around them just isn't enough. Nebula still isn't enough to help mitigate the damage you're taking since you're going to get cc'd into oblivion anyways as a tank with no counterplay, and it all feels like I'm pressing a lot of buttons very fast to do very little.

If No Mercy was a buff applied on Junction, if lightning shot was added back, or if it had something in the way of CC maybe it'd be "Fun" but I'm over trying to make it work when I can do half the effort in other classes and secure easier wins/kills. I had a bunch of GNBs last night I'm assuming testing the changes and when I played as SGE or MCH we just deleted them anyways, they're still a non-entity as far as encounters go.

Whm nerf now makes whm kills amost impossible. It was not broken. Just the loudest mouths and complaints think it was broken. How about banning the cheaters???

Uh...what. They still have a crazy powerful LB and single button to get instant 10k damage from range on top of multiple forms of utility and CC. IF you can't get a kill with a WHM in a party I don't know what to tell you.

WHM is still crazy powerful in all the matches I played last night. It's not the instant win button it may have been before by a small margin (2k damage is not that big a nerf with the LB being what it is) but it's not weak by any means.

[KageTokage]

I think WHM's LB needs to have both the range reduced (To 25 yards would be reasonable) and the charge time on it increased.

It's still easily the strongest LB in the game on a job that doesn't exactly struggle to have a presence in combat without it.

[KapraGoatmog]

It's clear the FFXIV team has it in for WHM and WAR. I'm guessing this is a reaction to people complaining about WAR and WHM, with the team thinking nerfing a tank into having worse mit than a dps and making whm only an lb user since that's the only useful skill it has, even without the stun

[KageTokage]

WAR and WHM are still widely agreed upon as being the best in their respective roles because the nerfs weren't significant nor were the buffs to the other healers/tanks substantial.

[Karasio]

The changes were way too mild honestly. Ultimately WHM is still way too strong with its overwhelmingly strong LB. Take a bat to WHM and WAR's kneecaps

[Esmoire]

I would have rather they left Afflatus Misery potency as is, and classify Miracle of Nature as a silence (while keeping the same graphic), and thus subject to the same counters. The WHM LB is also still either charging too fast or is too effective for how quickly we regain it.