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    Veranolth's Avatar
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    Veranolth Dawnglimmer
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I have mained healer for YEARS, and I still don't have 3000 commendations (About 2800).

    Meanwhile I've been playing for 2 years and I got 3400 comms. People can give out comms for literally any reason. Could be because you have a nice glam, or because you got a funny name, or because you got a chill attitude.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veranolth View Post
    Meanwhile I've been playing for 2 years and I got 3400 comms. People can give out comms for literally any reason. Could be because you have a nice glam, or because you got a funny name, or because you got a chill attitude.
    Well, I know that, of course. I hardly if ever interact with people so that might also be the reason. I know it's not just for being a healer.

    Granted, I also never farmed guildhests for commendations.
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    The rewards are fine. Do not remove.
    People are consistently overreaching about this.

    It's about getting people to sign up for mentor roulette to speed up queue times for sprouts. There HAS to be an incentive, or nobody would do it.
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    Lunaru Naru
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    I've never understood the Mentor memes and the enormous amount of threads posted here complaining about them or recommending their removal. I guess cause I play on a JP server, even though I don't speak Japanese, the english speaking population are only ever polite and genuine, the NN is perfectly fine, and I only ever see chat in their go like Sprout: "asks a question?" Mentor: "Answers question" So you can imagine when I see all the toxicity regarding the NN and Mentors I'm just confused.

    It's definitely cultural, Japanese in general are more respectful and don't insult people for no apparent reason. Hence why I didn't jump to OCE when they opened, I'm Australian and I can only imagine the amount of toxicity that's going to be rampant on those servers lmao we have no filter on us

    Therefore, it's not SE's job to police the bad aspects of our culture, if the system works as intended in Japan, we just have to adjust (become better people) or just put up with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LogicHatesMe View Post
    I've never understood the Mentor memes and the enormous amount of threads posted here complaining about them or recommending their removal. I guess cause I play on a JP server, even though I don't speak Japanese, the english speaking population are only ever polite and genuine, the NN is perfectly fine, and I only ever see chat in their go like Sprout: "asks a question?" Mentor: "Answers question" So you can imagine when I see all the toxicity regarding the NN and Mentors I'm just confused.

    It's definitely cultural, Japanese in general are more respectful and don't insult people for no apparent reason. Hence why I didn't jump to OCE when they opened, I'm Australian and I can only imagine the amount of toxicity that's going to be rampant on those servers lmao we have no filter on us

    Therefore, it's not SE's job to police the bad aspects of our culture, if the system works as intended in Japan, we just have to adjust (become better people) or just put up with it.
    In NA the NN is used by unsocialized weirdos as a platform with a captive audience. They'll go on and on about weird topics for hours at a time, often steering into creepy or outright ToS-violating topics. One of the most frequently asked questions is "How do I leave the Novice Network?" because sprouts get fed up with their chat being spammed about weird and/or disgusting things. The rest of the time its just totally inane babble that should be confined to linkshells or FC chat, but most of the 'active' mentors tend to have neither of those. I've seen one guy talk to himself for over an hour straight with paragraph length posts about a topic no one else was even engaging him about.
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    Valesti Nibelung
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    Remove the mentor crown, replace it with Burger King logo
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    I think to earn the mentor crown you need to clear the savage tier and current ultimate in all 5 roles (tank healer physranged melee caster) that way you should know what you’re doing and are qualified to help people get better.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I think to earn the mentor crown you need to clear the savage tier and current ultimate in all 5 roles (tank healer physranged melee caster) that way you should know what you’re doing and are qualified to help people get better.
    People who need mentor help ask things like "Where do I get that armor?" and "what does the sprout by my name mean?" and "Why did I die when those yellow arrows were on me?"...


    I would hazard to say that maybe under 1% of people who are willing to ask for help are asking help for bleeding edge progression.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    People who need mentor help ask things like "Where do I get that armor?" and "what does the sprout by my name mean?" and "Why did I die when those yellow arrows were on me?"...


    I would hazard to say that maybe under 1% of people who are willing to ask for help are asking help for bleeding edge progression.
    There are many players who just want the mentor crown to be a status symbol, like for clearing high end content, for example.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-28-2022 at 02:21 PM.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    There are many players who just want the mentor crown to be a status symbol, like for clearing high end content, for example.
    I've said again and again that I understand that.. but asking for the qualification for being a mentor to be more difficult or arduous misses the entire point of mentors being a guide for players who need basic assistance with the game.

    Yeah.. remove the crown, get rid of that mount everyone queue cherry picks for. Make it voluntary and you'll get people genuinely willing to help rather than clout and symbol farming.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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