Remove the Mentor crown

[Midareyukki]

One of the reasons I wear it is to prevent abuse in dungeons. There are players that prey on sprouts or non-mentors and are rude to them. When I've been on alt characters I have had people attack me for unreasonable things and I would never get such abuse with the mentor icon. When they see that icon they know I have more experience than them so they don't bother saying anything.

Most of the time when I report people it is on my characters that don't have the mentor icon and it's not necessarily mentors being rude, but people without the mentor icon too.

This must be a different thing in other datacenters or regions. In Light the prevalent mindset is to point out Mentor mistakes. Sprouts just generally take crap regardless of whether there's a mentor around or not. But that goes for everyone, really. I noticed you said you had to report people in the EU DC's. Honestly,it really is abuse in general, Mentors will also get it. Like I said, when people see a crown, they mostly just fixate on it and say "not only are you bad, you're a mentor!" when the "mistakes" are just minor stuff.

I wish having my mentor crown on actually helped stave off some situations, but it sure didn't do anything. If anything it just made me uncomfortable xD most comments I've gotten about having a full-mentor crown were that I was just flaunting it around. So I never had it on. And those who still keep theirs rarely ever are useful. Even in the NN itself, only a handful of mentors actually bothered to be helpful. They didn't use their buffs on sprouts, they rarely went with sprouts to help them do dungeons, feedback of their class was just either given in a vaccum or had over-the-top explanations for endgame.

[Worldofwarcraft]

I think the mentor system should be revamped. should be more focused on 1on1 maybe? i think it does do good though, I see people getting their questions answered all the time, but ofc there are trolls as well. I think for the most part it does more good than harm though.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I think the mentor system should be revamped. should be more focused on 1on1 maybe? i think it does do good though, I see people getting their questions answered all the time, but ofc there are trolls as well. I think for the most part it does more good than harm though.

The merits of having a chatroom with multiple mentors inside is to have some sort of insurance in case whoever answered answers incorrectly. At that point the other mentor can step in to correct their mistakes. Of course, there are also these funny mentors who’d lash out when they get corrected.

Sometimes I think status ‘mentor’ should have more specifications like ‘Melee DPS Mentor’, ‘Healer Mentor’, ‘Gatherer Mentor’, and so on. How do they create such system? I have no idea, just a cent of my thought, because a mere ‘mentor’ is too generic and they often are not the ‘know-it-all’-player; they tend to give ineffective tips when they are asked with a question that’s beyond what they normally touch.

I.e. Caster main gets asked about healer question because… well they’re a ‘Battle Mentor’! They should know it all, right!?

[Thi]

Just change the crown icon to a watering can or if feeling cheeky, a poop emoji (fertilizer) since mentors are supposed to help sprouts grow. No more BK Crown status symbol.

[lennit]

you can turn it off . by social on the menu bar then click player search , go to party member at the top . right click your name click edit search info . then click mentor and change it to online

[Veranolth]

I got my trade mentor because I was crafting during the last season of Ishgard Restoration, and placed number 12 as Carpenter (although I didn't bother using macros I was just scraping by in gil and gear). I've had CRP as my only crafting job with my gatherers at 80 at the time, and I wasn't really that much into crafting/gathering. Trade mentor is just that easy to get.

[MellowMink]

I think the mentor crown should be replaced with a watering can; it would thematically fit better since you’re helping sprouts grow in experience.

[not_ya_wify]

Like the title says, I think SE should remove the mentor crown.

This is really a band-aid fix to a bigger problem, which is that the requirements for achieving the mentor status are really easy and have little to do with your experience across a wide array of content.

Nevertheless, I think it would be a positive and simple change. Mentors receive a good amount of harassment in this game, which I don't think is ever warranted. Mentor or not, if someone is being rude or just acting clownish in general, two wrongs don't make a right, and its simple enough to blacklist them and move on.

That being said, I have never experienced any kind of harassment from being a mentor. I simply just don't wear the crown. I enjoyed the exp boost when it was relevant for me, and I get a kick out of reading NN chat; that's pretty much my whole mentor experience.

You don't need a crown beside your name to help new players. Furthermore, the crown has such a bad reputation in this game(even to new players) that they aren't going to ask mentors for help anyways.

And finally, removing the crown would eliminate the portion of mentors who only got the status to have the icon next to their name.

*Yes, I did write this in response to another post I saw about mentor harassment*

Don't remove the mentor crown. I know there are toxic people in Novice Network but the vast majority of mentors I've encountered were normal mentors. I think the real issue is that you don't need to have done x content to be a mentor. You need to have a certain personality. You need to enjoy helping others and you need to be nice and friendly when someone gets things wrong over and over. Currently, the only thing that even sort of attempts this is the commendation requirement. Unfortunately, players don't use commendations correctly. They just give commendations to tanks or healers, regardless of whether they explained any mechanics or not. There should be a way to tag people who explain mechanics or help people with something after they party up.

[Jojoya]

Unfortunately, players don't use commendations correctly.

There is no correct use for commendations.

SE offers players no guidance on how commendations should be used beyond "Player commendation is a system whereby you can commend a party member who left a positive impression upon you in the course of duty."

Positive impression can come from a lot of different things (and what one player finds offensive could be very funny to another).

It doesn't help that the game "bribes" players into using their commendations via the challenge log entry. A lot of times players are just slapping their commendations on a random party member still left in the dungeon before they leave for the sake of getting that extra bit of XP and gil.

[SturmChurro]

I have mained healer for YEARS, and I still don't have 3000 commendations (About 2800).