The absolute state of MCH rn

[Hana_Monogatari]

Machinist has been lying dead in a gutter since the 6.0 tooltips got announced. Its job philosophy is a selfish dps in the role that by design deals the least amount of damage. Its strict cooldowns and windows leaves it feeling needlessly punishing to play yet underwhelming given its damage hits like a wet noodle.

Why is the cowboy-hatted gun-toting robot-summoning job just so bland?

The design team's current obsession with homogenization and a staid 2-min %-dmg raid buff for 20+ seconds is leaving jobs like MCH without any room for a fun, interesting identity. Let us plant debuffing turrets on the arena. Let us go akimbo or use the cool PvP sniper rifle. Let us do something beyond "press the 580-potency weaponskill every 20 seconds".

SE. Please give us at least one complex job per role, to help newer players learn more about the game and to give experienced players something fun to play. Both casual and hardcore players will love you for it. (please i just want my cowboy Gundam job to be cool)

[Reimmi]

MCH either needs debuffs added to its tools (return the turrets!) Or it needs to have cast times so it can become a selfish dps equal to sam/blm (they will not budge on this physical ranged tax for some reason)

[DeltaCyan]

I wouldn't mind if they brought back HW machinist cast times (you'd still need a skill like reload and quick fire to be reintroduced for on demand movement) but also allowed you to move slowly during casts like with PvP.
But then again I'm no MCH main and miss the good ol days

[Raikai]

MCH either needs debuffs added to its tools (return the turrets!) Or it needs to have cast times so it can become a selfish dps equal to sam/blm (they will not budge on this physical ranged tax for some reason)

Not necessarily... It's possible to have it as mobile as it is today, and the difficult threshold being defined by the job mechanics. Bring back buffs/debuffs to watch, micromanagement of the Queen, or tools interacting with each other, or more oGCDs to handle. Have Battery and Heat being more dynamic in how you spend and acquire. They just need to raise the skill ceiling, and that would justify bigger selfish dps numbers.

Party dps support is not the answer either when everything boils down to rdps. They could have 3 different dmg% buffs and still be on the bottom of the barrel in the end of the evening.

[Katori96]

MCH either needs debuffs added to its tools (return the turrets!) Or it needs to have cast times so it can become a selfish dps equal to sam/blm (they will not budge on this physical ranged tax for some reason)

Oh god flashbacks to the Gun/Bow mage of HW lol. Fun times tbh but omg would not go back to that state of the game. For reasons other than cast times

[technole]

Oh god flashbacks to the Gun/Bow mage of HW lol. Fun times tbh but omg would not go back to that state of the game. For reasons other than cast times

Bow and gun mage were best times. When double range and Dragoon was the meta, kicking pure casters out of the party lol.

Probably made YoshiP very sick, so it wasn't going to last.

[Doc_Seraph]

For everything normal kupo I find it just dandy and easy but hitting up savage or such where it counts I really cannot comment on because I have not researched or ran data for those on mch. kupo <3

Seeing as how they go with Edgar's (FFVI) tools maybe something like Noiseblaster aoe stun or something kupo <3 lol

[Enjuden]

For everything normal kupo I find it just dandy and easy but hitting up savage or such where it counts I really cannot comment on because I have not researched or ran data for those on mch. kupo <3

Seeing as how they go with Edgar's (FFVI) tools maybe something like Noiseblaster aoe stun or something kupo <3 lol

Suggesting CC is saying to give nothing. It's not useful and is there to look pretty and waste people's time for the most part.

[IdowhatIwant]

Pretty sure this expansion, the reason why the new skills were so boring was they stated machinist is in what they consider a completed state. If this is what a completed class looks like I am sorry everyone but your classes are going to suck and have high apm in the future.

[CKNovel]

Pretty sure this expansion, the reason why the new skills were so boring was they stated machinist is in what they consider a completed state. If this is what a completed class looks like I am sorry everyone but your classes are going to suck and have high apm in the future.

Ironically, it feels as the least complete job.
Heat gauge is used by one button (And extend to Heatblast/auto cross bow).
Heatblast spam somehow remains at 5 GCDs and not on stack. Blood weapon was put on stack, Soteria was put on stack.
Battery gauge is used by one button and it's press&forget.
Flamethrower still exist as if they somehow forgot about it.
Wildfire is incredibly boring.
Barrel stabilizer needs a QoL or change how it function due to how rigid it makes the heat gauge management.
Basic combo is boring, visually unappealing and completely disconnected from the main rotation apart from gauge generation.
Automaton Queen needs QoLs, I'm not going to repeat everything about how its AI is flawed.

All the dopamine lies in Drill, Air Anchor and Chain saw (that isn't even a chainsaw.).
MCH need the other half of the rework.