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  1. #1
    Player
    ShanaShirayuki's Avatar
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    Character
    Akali Kurai
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90

    6.11 Buffs to SAM

    Nice to see that you're looking at the forums at the very least, but the core problem that you created with the 6.1 changes still remains: The class is not fun to play anymore; especially before an Ultimate drop where many statics had to change their lineup in order to get the utmost from their group compositions and synergy.

    Give us a full revert and not these 100 potency band-aid buffs. It feels bad when other classes have higher potency 'big hit' abilities and buff synergy but we do not.
    We've given you our feedback, and will continue to do so until the soul and fun of the class is restored. The below will keep happening until you do, and we do not want to wait until 7.0, or even the next Savage raid tier:



    Could not have put it better myself (from The Balance Discord community):

    (22)

  2. 04-26-2022 04:37 PM

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    Roxus's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryuuko Souha
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I want someone to go back through all the patch notes and count how many times 10-20 potency was used as the solution for job balance. I'm genuinely curious.
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  4. #3
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    Character
    Stasya Astolfofangirl
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    Shoha "buff" is a joke aswell, it was 580 before nerf....
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    what a joke. SE insults us with these small potency changes.
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  6. #5
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    Character
    Minerva Goldwinne
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPeacElbow View Post
    what a joke. SE insults us with these small potency changes.
    If they weren't going to revert their garbage changes, nothing would've been by far less insulting than these so-called "buffs". Least that's how I view it. They might as well have been bread crumbs at best.
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  7. #6
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    NightEryuell's Avatar
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    Character
    Nightingale Eryuell
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I'm Still hoping for a Kaiten comeback (Kaiten Removals feels like they also cut one of your fingers), instead they just give us these potency change, and still haven't solved the main issue on this new SAM changes

    to think that i had to create an account for forum thread because of this changes,
    I'm holding the urge to spouts the F bomb and insult to Yoshi P and his Teams, because i still believe that they're working on it.
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  8. #7
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    Character
    Ace Le'fay
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    The 6.11 buffs are probably even more insulting than just being straight up ignored. Atleast with being ignored, Yoshi P and the other developers can feign ignorance. These meagre buffs (lol 1.6% more damage) is essentially Yoshi P and the other developers going "we see your complaints and think what you have to say is worthless".
    (16)

  9. #8
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    MikoRemi's Avatar
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    Apr 2022
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Miko Remi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I've been wondering and I don't think I've seen this earlier, but if SE is worried about button bloat so much, can't the skill that gives 50 free kenki and Oga Namakiri Ready just become Oga Namakiri?

    Not sure if it's already like that but does make me wonder if that's an easy route...
    (6)
    *Job effectiveness will vary depending on player skill

  10. #9
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Character
    Carby Adalena
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    They don’t even give the full potency back they took. They took 60 potency (without Kaiten) and gave 40 back. The only skill that is as powerful as it was with Kaiten after the change was Higanbanna. They couldn’t have at least given us 750 Midare with auto Crit? And the fact that Ogi still lost potency too is salt in the wound.

    And yet I still see people say that the combo actions got buffed so it made up for it before numbers came in. The problem is this is not accounting for where you use most of your Iaijutsu, especially Ogi, Higanbanna, and Midare. When all the buffs are out. So this isn’t in a bubble of just sams to sams, it’s Smurai being nerfed SPECIFICALLY during big group burst phases and it’s absolutely unacceptable that we lost not just 60 potency to Midare and the follow up with 6.1 but 390 because of the loss of Kaiten and more because of Ogi being nerfed too ALL DURING MAJOR BURSTS. Whoever made these changes must genuinely not play the game or the class because that’s how tone deaf all of these have been.
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    I'm from 1 MS in the future.

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    Character
    Nezuko Kaamado
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Guess i need to unsub with these changes. Thought i would give them benefit of the doubt but with these “buff”, its clear that they dont want to listen to player feedback. Cool, i just pack my shiet and go somewhere else till my sam back to normal
    See you guys when its reverted
    #Bringbackkaiten
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