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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    It's a matter of perspective, really. One man's trash is another man's treasure, so to speak. For many people, the storytelling was essentially focused around 2 separate regions, which really made it difficult to pull out much substance. Edit: This is why I disliked the story, anyway.
    I do not like frozen peaks of ishgard or fighting dragons(i have enough of dragons because of world of warcraft expansions) etc. I much prefer stormblood since it has the eastern vibe, which I love. Plus it doesn't have mary sue Alphinaud, I wish they would kill him already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    I do not like frozen peaks of ishgard or fighting dragons(i have enough of dragons because of world of warcraft expansions) etc. I much prefer stormblood since it has the eastern vibe, which I love. Plus it doesn't have mary sue Alphinaud, I wish they would kill him already.
    Even though we like different expansions I completely agree and like you more than a friend. I wish they would just kill off the twins and annoying thou elf guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    Even though we like different expansions I completely agree and like you more than a friend. I wish they would just kill off the twins and annoying thou elf guy.
    okay nevermind you are hilarious and 100% just saying shit to fuck with people, keep it up king
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    I do not like frozen peaks of ishgard or fighting dragons(i have enough of dragons because of world of warcraft expansions) etc. I much prefer stormblood since it has the eastern vibe, which I love. Plus it doesn't have mary sue Alphinaud, I wish they would kill him already.
    lets be real here. The biggest mary sue/gary stu is our own WoL. At least SB had us put in our place when Zenos showed up for the first time. I was mad but I kinda enjoyed how our character took a slight backseat somewhat (emphasis on slight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    let's be real here. The biggest mary sue/gary stu is our own WoL. At least SB had us put in our place when Zenos showed up for the first time. I was mad but I kinda enjoyed how our character took a slight backseat somewhat (emphasis on slight).
    I love that too, how you are humiliated by Zenos over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    At least SB had us put in our place when Zenos showed up for the first time. I was mad but I kinda enjoyed how our character took a slight backseat somewhat (emphasis on slight).
    I found nothing at all compelling about Zenos. The first fight he was a massive hp sponge that you had to beat down to 80% to trigger his unavoidable stun. I felt no anger or shame, just disgust at having my time wasted which pretty much sums up every Zenos fight with the exception of Shinryuu (buuuuut that's not really Zenos).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    I do not like frozen peaks of ishgard or fighting dragons(i have enough of dragons because of world of warcraft expansions) etc. I much prefer stormblood since it has the eastern vibe, which I love. Plus it doesn't have mary sue Alphinaud, I wish they would kill him already.
    I enjoyed it, personally. It definitely had some low downs, particularly with Alphinaud, but I don't think even the dreaded Alphinaud can compete with an expansion of Lyse. I liked the eastern aesthetic, and I would have liked it more if not for the troubling launch or the poor development it had. Being an expansion that was essentially split around 2 regions, it made it hard to really get anything of substance there.



    Yes, Lyse, what were you doing there...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I enjoyed it, personally. It definitely had some low downs, particularly with Alphinaud, but I don't think even the dreaded Alphinaud can compete with an expansion of Lyse. I liked the eastern aesthetic, and I would have liked it more if not for the troubling launch or the poor development it had. Being an expansion that was essentially split around 2 regions, it made it hard to really get anything of substance there.
    Nah I loved the launch and all the people lining up, that was great.
    But yeah it lacked substances cause it was trying to cover way to much. I personally have the same feeling about EW, it was better than SB but not by much IMO. I think ShB and HW work better cause it's centralized and can go in more depth. These expansions also felt more like an adventure vs the others as well.

    SB also normalized the fist clinching seen in every expansion after to express anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    I do not like frozen peaks of ishgard or fighting dragons(i have enough of dragons because of world of warcraft expansions) etc. I much prefer stormblood since it has the eastern vibe, which I love. Plus it doesn't have mary sue Alphinaud, I wish they would kill him already.
    You kind of just answered your own question here. You have a bias against dragons, and towards Eastern themes. Naturally, the expansion which focuses heavily on political machinations and dragons won't appeal to you compared to one whose second half is entirely dedicated towards Eastern inspiration.

    As for the general census towards each expansion. Lyse simply isn't a well written character nor is the majority of Ala Mhigo's side of Stormblood well executed. In fact, it's all but forgotten once we set foot in Kugane and never refocuses. Alphinaud is also far from a Mary Sue even if you happen to dislike him. He undergoes a pretty significant character growth; something Lyse does not. She is the exact same character from start to finish. The narrative even frames around how right her idealism is instead of simply acknowledging it. Her perspective is never once challenged and by the end, she... puts on a dress and is suddenly taking up the leadership mantle of Ala Mhigo when, realistically, Raubahn is FAR more qualified.

    It's primarily how poorly written Lyse was and the lack of focus towards Ala Mhigo which causes many to rank Stormblood lower. It's still a good expansion, especially the Doma side. Just simply weaker than Heavensward for most players.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 04-26-2022 at 11:03 AM.
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