I would love the PvP Combos system in PvE to save space

[Delmontyb]

One thing I love about the pvp system in FFXIV is how they setup the combo system where skills move from one to the next.
I think 6.1 shows how that it doesn't just make it press one button to win, but there are so many times in pve that we have 3 to 4 spots taken up, when it could be shifted into just one spot.
In the end, I would support this just being an option for players if they wanted skills not to stack, but figured I'd bring this feedback back up in hopes of it being considered for an update in the future.

[Reimmi]

Only if by condensing the combos we get more abilities to press in return.
If we only get the combos condensed with nothing in return, no thanks

Could be optional i suppose but usually square is all or nothing with this kind of thing

[Garnix]

Hi Brian.
I think it depends.

For example, if button bloat was the problem, removing the button that is only used for Hakaze would have been better than removing Kaiten in my opinion.
For DRG, where you want to make sure that your 3rd GCD is the one that you will buff with life surge, having only one button would actually make it less intuitive to keep track of. (though let's be honest, life surge will not survive 7.0 anyways. Maybe not even 6.2)
They also did it for Continuation and it works well I believe.
Putting holy spirit and confiteor on the same button wouldn't work super well if you want to end your magic rotation early for one reason or another.


However I agree, making it an option would make sense I guess.

However, the reason it works so well in PvP is also because the playstyle is different.
You have the job flavor, you have to be more reactive in the way you press button etc.
It is not as "rigid" as PvE. You don't have rotations, you just have your utility to use properly basically.

To be fair though, when 7.0 comes, and we obviously get a couple more skills for each job, I would rather sacrifice some of the basic combo skills, instead of sacrificing beloved actions (again using Kaiten removal as an example).

[Wolwosh]

How would that work though if your job has multiple combo's though? Have 5 versions of 123 for Monk or Dragoon?

[DixieBellOCE]

How would that work though if your job has multiple combo's though? Have 5 versions of 123 for Monk or Dragoon?

Dragoon has 2 combinations and you literally just repeat them back to back.

True Thrust -> Disembowel -> Chaotic Spring -> Wheeling Thrust -> Fang and Claw
Raiden Thrust -> Vorpal Thrust -> Heaven's Thrust -> Fand and Claw - > Wheeling Thrust

Why those two combos are not just on a single button each, when there is NO REASON to press any other button than those exact combinations.

If you do, you break the combo and you are losing damage.

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Same can be said for the recent change of High Jump into Mirage Dive. It saved space, and is EXACTLY what the OP is asking for, just for more abilities.

Suggestions for these actions:

Warrior:
Inner Release turn into Primal Rend

RDM:
Veraero II and Verthunder II turning into Impact
melee combo on 1 button?

Bard:
Burst Shot turning into Straight Shot when it procs?
Ladon's Bite turning into Shadowbite

Summoner:
Energy Drain turning into Fester


There are so many buttons that could be consolidated for quality of life purposes that free up hotbar space.

[hagare]

One thing I love about the pvp system in FFXIV is how they setup the combo system where skills move from one to the next.
I think 6.1 shows how that it doesn't just make it press one button to win, but there are so many times in pve that we have 3 to 4 spots taken up, when it could be shifted into just one spot.
In the end, I would support this just being an option for players if they wanted skills not to stack, but figured I'd bring this feedback back up in hopes of it being considered for an update in the future.

it took you until PVP?
Were you not paying attention when the system was used for playing others characters? xD

No, ty.

Jobs have already been gutted enough. And why even have combos if they are the same button, might as well change your 1-2-3 to glare and call it a day. I heard healers are pretty happy with it. /s

Unfortunately, people don't like button stacking.
So SE will help them by removing more skills. Like how they removed kaiten lmao

You know those combos have you doing different things right?
You can't compare healers as we spam ONE thing and it's same spell.

They're going to have to do something anyways because Yoshi already said they're at their limit with space.

The sad thing is. If SAM did this, Kaiten coulda been saved xD

[Oizen]

This would have better applications for Tanks than DPS most classes.

Still worth adding as a option honestly.

[Doc_Seraph]

I would not mind them if they are optional. Forced anything will just yield negative returns. <3 kupo

[Lilyth]

No, ty.

Jobs have already been gutted enough. And why even have combos if they are the same button, might as well change your 1-2-3 to glare and call it a day. I heard healers are pretty happy with it. /s

[Jybril]

No, ty.

Jobs have already been gutted enough. And why even have combos if they are the same button, might as well change your 1-2-3 to glare and call it a day. I heard healers are pretty happy with it. /s

You know those combos have you doing different things right?
You can't compare healers as we spam ONE thing and it's same spell.

They're going to have to do something anyways because Yoshi already said they're at their limit with space.