What reasons to play SGE over WHM or SCH?

[Vulkiel]

(This isn't a complaint thread, I just want to know more about SGE)

Been thinking of maining SGE as my healer, seeing as I started the game with Scholar and kinda miss the healing role, even if i've gone off scholar in general.

Ive been looking at it compared to other healers (Apart from AST, which Ive never had any interest in), and it seems a little bit lacking.

Being able to heal while damaging is nice, but I dont know if those damage numbers are that great anyway. WHM seems to do a fair bit more damage along with having more reliable heals and reacting to bad situations far better. When it comes to shields, SCH seems to just be overall better at that, too.

I've heard a lot of differing opinions on SGE, so i thought I'd ask here. Why do you play it over the others? What does it bring to the table that the others dont? (or dont do as well)

[Silverbane]

I like the mobility SGE provides compared to WHM and SCH.
YMMV.

[Vatom]

None really SCH has better shields WHM has better heals
DPS is pretty much the same
The best I can tell you as a SGE main
you get everything maybe not the best but everything and if your a Vet healer you make the best out of this
SGE isn't hard to pick up but can be challenging to get use to since it plays a bit differently
But once you start to figure it all out you feel big brain and healer is never stale when your a sage
Truly SE can be magicians when they want to cause you can feel like a dps when you crit a Dosis
Your mobility can make you feel like a gundam or magic girl whatever your fantasy is (though two would be epic)
When I say it feels like magic sometimes it truly does
But Numbers wise nothing think of it as a shoe if it fits you play it or not

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Why I play WHM over SGE:
• I love Cane and wand (I use wand in BSF for less clipping lol). I love flowery motifs as well.
• More mobile than SGE after 6.1 change outside Icarus.

Why I play SCH over SGE:
• Books >>>>> Space lazor. (I know, I’m biased)
• Butterfly motifs.
• Healing & buffs AoE that are not centered on myself while can also be manipulated at will.
• My OG main, and will always be.
• And reasons you’ve stated.

Why I play AST over SGE:
• The most support’ish of all healers.
• Keeps me awake with its APM.

Why not SGE?
• Gundam/Mecha-style of aesthetic has never clicked with me. It’s a major turn off for me.
• A copy paste of SCH-identity.
• Bonus point: notably less effective emergency recovery options compared to SCH but why worry about it when you can prevent it.

[YusiKha]

Sage/Scholar main here to argue mostly in favour of Sage

SGE and SCH
Eukrasian Diagnosis and Prognosis are both usable while moving (adlo/succ have cast times)
SGE’s single-target healing is the best of all healers (Kardia forced vs random embrace, Kardion keeps going during Haima vs Embraces stopped during Aetherpact, Soteria vs Nothing)
SGE doesn’t rely on the skill of your teammates for damage, unlike SCH’s Chain Strat.
SGE excels in multitarget phases, being able to cleave for bonus damage with Phlegma, Toxicon, and Pneuma. SCH’s energy drain and chain strat only hit 1 target.
Regular Prognosis is around for those dire situations where you have nothing left.
Better MP restoration, SGE gains ~566 extra mp/min due to addersgall, rhizomata. They also get a 400mp refund on Euk.Diag from the toxicon proc.
Kerachole sticks to people instead of requiring them to be close (very useful for things like UCoB trio phases)
Icarus exists; which is nice, but not vital.
Physis2 is much more impactful than Whispering Dawn (10% heal buff, 90p extra, shorter duration)

However, SCH deals more damage in ST
Has better range healing (fairy, more 20y skills)
Stronger shields & mitigation (deployment > zoe, fey illumination vs nothing.
Succor also has an extra 100p pure healing vs Euk.Prog for some reason
Dissipation is a decent tool for emergency healing, but it’s basically just going to be turned into Lustrate/Energy Drains, due to Indom/Soil/Excog’s internal cooldowns.

SGE and WHM
They’re different ‘types’ of healer, so harder to compare. I’ll try my best anyway, since SCH+SGE is a viable comp if you have planning and coordination.

SGE has much better mitigation (Kera and Holos vs only Temperance). Krasis beats Aquaveil in versatility, and Taurochole is a good match for Aqua’s mitigation.
SGE has better free ST healing (WHM would need to dip into Regen/Cure2)
Did I mention Kerachole? It and SCH’s Soil are insanely powerful skills.
Panhaima and Liturgy have similar uses, but Panhaima has a minute less on its cooldown. It can also prevent lethal damage, being a shield.
Kerachole is a 10% mitigation every 30s. I don’t think I can stress enough just how powerful that is. It covers basically every raidwide in the game.

WHM has much better flexibility with its lily usage vs Addersgall (no cooldowns on rapture, solace is more potency than druochole). This also makes WHM better at burst healing - especially thanks to Plenary and Cure3, even though Cure3 is a damage loss.
WHM has much better MP economy with lily changes
Cure2, Medica2, Cure3, and Regen are very nice - but this is more of a ‘pure vs barrier’ argument. It makes it easier to salvage runs that are going downhill than just Diagnosis, Prognosis, and their Eukrasian counterparts.


All in all:
SGE is pretty nice, but all healers are viable. Play what you enjoy lol.

[Hazama999]

To me, healers don't feel all that different from one another, so it mostly comes down to the aesthetic.
I prefer SGE's over the rest, so that's what I play.

[Teno]

Unique and awesome aesthetics, shields, dps to heal (but still healer so terrible gameplay and execution), dash is always fun.

[rewd]

SGE is very easy to play (all healers are, but SGE even more so), has a strong and versatile healing kit that makes you less reliant on your cohealer and several mobility options. It's usually my first option when I try harder content for the first time.

All healers are pretty similar anyway and you will be spamming one single button most of the time on all of them.

[SlickPaws]

(This isn't a complaint thread, I just want to know more about SGE)

Been thinking of maining SGE as my healer, seeing as I started the game with Scholar and kinda miss the healing role, even if i've gone off scholar in general.

Ive been looking at it compared to other healers (Apart from AST, which Ive never had any interest in), and it seems a little bit lacking.

Being able to heal while damaging is nice, but I dont know if those damage numbers are that great anyway. WHM seems to do a fair bit more damage along with having more reliable heals and reacting to bad situations far better. When it comes to shields, SCH seems to just be overall better at that, too.

I've heard a lot of differing opinions on SGE, so i thought I'd ask here. Why do you play it over the others? What does it bring to the table that the others dont? (or dont do as well)

There's only one reason you actually need, and it's 'lasers go brrrrr.'
If that's not enough, then SGE probably isn't for you. :P

For my opinion though, I'm finding SGE to be really fun and I don't get the same feeling of guilt that I get from other healers when I'm focusing on DPSing more than straight heals. With SGE I'm more comfortable allowing the tank to take damage as I spam Dosis rather than throwing on a regen with WHM and spamming glare... It's a mindset thing for me. SGE *wants* to be a Green DPS and it feels more like it should be played as one. With that being said, it's also kind of deceptive because like SCH, you'll want to be thinking a few steps ahead with barriers and mitigation because your crisis tools kinda suck in comparison to the WHM or AST for when the shit hits the fan. Overall though, I find SGE fun and more engaging to play that the other healers and I enjoy the aethestics. It lacks a some of specialisation of the other healers - less support than AST, less "oh shit!" tools than WHM, weaker shields than SCH - but it does pretty much everything well. It's the Jack of all Trades healer, and it's a blast.

[einschwartz]

Cooler cpose when the weapons are drawn.