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    Ranaku's Avatar
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    A simple solution to combat all the cheating!

    Please SE for the love of Hydaelyn please finally add an easy to access report button into the game and please just employ a small team of people who review reports for each datacenter and that's it.

    That's all it takes to combat bots and cheaters and all that crap without having to purge half of your playerbase cause everyone uses mods and plugins at this point i guess.

    I mean why the heck do we still have to fill out gigantic forms through some really hidden report function just to report the simplest of violations? It can't be that hard to just implement the same report function which we can already use to report rmt quickly just for all the other offenses and having a couple more gamemasters to take care of all the cheaters/reports won't hurt your budget more than having to ban half the community.
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    Genuinely surprised most people complain about seeing the Gaol as often as they do considering SE makes it a task and a half to report things.

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    Alarasong Elaha
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    +1

    I was very surprised when doing CC that there was no right click report option on individuals. Seems pretty simple too, right click report for cheating or toxic activity (spamming nice match or good job kinda stuff), get enough reports on one person it goes to GM review. Then the GM can look at combat logs or chat logs for proof of cheating and issue judgement.
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    I got tired of reporting bots strictly because of how annoying having to type out a full report is when they're seldom actioned on top of new bots seeming to pop up on a daily basis.

    If the main issue really is just a lack of reports coming in, this would actually help with getting cheaters banned.
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    they certainly need something improved, because their current system seems to favour cheaters and bots over people who actually play the game
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    But how do you even tell that people are cheating/using mods?

    Unless this cheating is blatantly breaking things like floating where you should not or running ahead before the match starts. Otherwise... only if they are telling you about that out loud.
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    Most of the cheating in pvp and in the "open" world is really blatantly. Like sprint that never wears off or all of that which can be for sure seen in the logs.

    As i said this isn't about other mods and plugins that don't affect others, what i mean are bots who teleport through the world or farm at a spot for weeks without ever logging off the game which no human could do. Or in pvp where people use cheats which you can also detect through the log cause no human could switch between multiple targets in mere seconds to killsteal etc.

    As i said this would be the best solution without intrusive anticheat softwares and bringing the ban hammer down to all mod/plugin users. The modding community and the plugin users are way too many as that SE could even think about banning them all cause if they would do that investors would give them hell for it. At this point ever third or even second player is using mods/plugins that are just quality of life changes and i don't think SE can afford to ban half the playerbase but if people start to cheat their way through content that actually destroys the fun for others, like pvp, they need to do something.

    Edit: Also as i said, getting more gamemasters into the team especially for that reason would be also great since that way if the report is coming in while the match is still going on the gamemaster, if the system allows that, could look at the situation themselves and decide if the reported person is actually speedhacking, glitching and using scripts with which they swap between targets in split seconds. That would cost way less than all the sub money that would be lost if we ban everyone using third party stuff.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 04-25-2022 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    But how do you even tell that people are cheating/using mods?

    Unless this cheating is blatantly breaking things like floating where you should not or running ahead before the match starts. Otherwise... only if they are telling you about that out loud.
    Bots follow an extremely stiff pattern of movement/actions with little to no deviation.

    The most common type of cheating in PvP is automatic skill triggers to secure kills or deny actions from the opposing team, and as with the bots, it happens with an unnatural level of speed and consistency that becomes pretty obvious when the same player keeps CCing you every time you try to LB or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    But how do you even tell that people are cheating/using mods?

    Unless this cheating is blatantly breaking things like floating where you should not or running ahead before the match starts. Otherwise... only if they are telling you about that out loud.
    If i see a bunch of hyur miners all mounting up at the same time to gather a node, with names urianger himself would find baffling, it's pretty easy to tell
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    But there is another problem: the lower the barrier is to report someone the more likely it is, that the people will misuse this functionality. Someone is good in PvP or you hate the guy in the raid? Report him, maybe the GM had a bad day and will ban him. And no, false accusations are not an exception.

    Easy reporting can do much harm.


    Cheers
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