PSA: you might not want an individual medium or large house

[Sindele]

Smalls have a counterintuitive layout, mediums have their stairs that are inexplicably flipped from the way they should be and cut off valuable floor real estate all over the place, larges have asinine pillars and weird zone-specific differences and an awkward giant basement and the window room and all in all nowhere near enough item limit for the space. No layout is really ideal, every one of them will pop up some problem that interferes with your design goals eventually.

What gets me is when people declare "I can't live in a small!" before they've ever even tried decorating out a small or apartment space. It's shooting yourself in both feet and a recipe for unhappiness. Hell, in a non-zero amount of cases what people really want to achieve their goals that can "only fit in a large" is actually a small FC house and multiple alt rooms - trying to wedge too many purpose-built spaces into a single house is one of those things that torpedoes a design before it even starts.

Seriously, though: there's a reason the most valuable house in the game on the grey market is a medium, not a large. (Okay, multiple reasons, but still.)

[Illmaeran]

What gets me is when people declare "I can't live in a small!"

A small house has more living space than my two bedroom apartment.....

[Eraden]

Smalls have a counterintuitive layout, mediums have their stairs that are inexplicably flipped from the way they should be and cut off valuable floor real estate all over the place, larges have asinine pillars and weird zone-specific differences and an awkward giant basement and the window room and all in all nowhere near enough item limit for the space. No layout is really ideal, every one of them will pop up some problem that interferes with your design goals eventually.

What gets me is when people declare "I can't live in a small!" before they've ever even tried decorating out a small or apartment space. It's shooting yourself in both feet and a recipe for unhappiness. Hell, in a non-zero amount of cases what people really want to achieve their goals that can "only fit in a large" is actually a small FC house and multiple alt rooms - trying to wedge too many purpose-built spaces into a single house is one of those things that torpedoes a design before it even starts.

Seriously, though: there's a reason the most valuable house in the game on the grey market is a medium, not a large. (Okay, multiple reasons, but still.)

I have an apartment in game. It is FAR too small for me to do the things I wanted to do. Even with glitched lofts. This is why I am dead set on trying for a medium. I know full well I will probably not get one but I will keep trying as long as there are medium plots to be had.

[Jojoya]

A small house has more living space than my two bedroom apartment.....

That must be one tiny 2 bdr apartment then. Small houses are usually about the same size as 1-2 bedroom apartments (and probably don't need to mention the tiny house movement where they're even smaller). The main difference is the dwelling is detached from other homes so you get a bit of yard.

Somewhat irrelevant to the discussion though since housing in a game isn't for the purpose of "living space". It's a primarily creative and/or social outlet since we don't truly live in them with our characters (unless we're playing a game like the Sims).

I have an apartment in game. It is FAR too small for me to do the things I wanted to do. Even with glitched lofts. This is why I am dead set on trying for a medium. I know full well I will probably not get one but I will keep trying as long as there are medium plots to be had.

Which is the main problem. Smalls work well for some creative designs but they work poorly for most.

It would be really nice to learn why SE is having such difficulties providing size options for apartments. It's something they said they were looking into doing back in Stormblood. I'm not referring to the ability to upgrade an apartment after purchase. The technical limitations preventing that I can more or less understand. I'm talking about a player being able to walk up to the Apartment Caretaker, say I want to purchase an apartment, have the caretaker ask "what size"?, player picks tiny (current) or small or medium or large (equivalent to house interiors) and they purchase that size. Many players would be fine foregoing a house if they could get a house sized interior, especially when there would be no risk of demoltion.

[Shibi]

That must be one tiny 2 bdr apartment then.

12 paces side to side, so about 18 metres x 18 metres. or 324sqm. 2 floors make it over 600SQM.

That's pretty big.

(As in all games, the camera behind your head changes one's impression of the true space.)

[Renalt]

Garden Plots. That is it. If I could hold as many Garden Plots on a small or even an outdoor apartment I would never care for a large home. However the housing situation has left a bad taste in my mouth after camping a place for 30 hours straight only for a dude to stroll up and move his house...

I live under a bridge now. It's my bridge.

[HuaTuo]

As someone who successfully migrated datacentres for housing purposes, I can with clarity confirm that Small plots are inferior to Large plots in every single way! At least this is my humble opinion ever since I managed to claim a large plot. Fingers crossed for all people waiting for theirs to be unstuck. Hopefully soon <3

[Eraden]

That must be one tiny 2 bdr apartment then. Small houses are usually about the same size as 1-2 bedroom apartments (and probably don't need to mention the tiny house movement where they're even smaller). The main difference is the dwelling is detached from other homes so you get a bit of yard.

Somewhat irrelevant to the discussion though since housing in a game isn't for the purpose of "living space". It's a primarily creative and/or social outlet since we don't truly live in them with our characters (unless we're playing a game like the Sims).


Which is the main problem. Smalls work well for some creative designs but they work poorly for most.

It would be really nice to learn why SE is having such difficulties providing size options for apartments. It's something they said they were looking into doing back in Stormblood. I'm not referring to the ability to upgrade an apartment after purchase. The technical limitations preventing that I can more or less understand. I'm talking about a player being able to walk up to the Apartment Caretaker, say I want to purchase an apartment, have the caretaker ask "what size"?, player picks tiny (current) or small or medium or large (equivalent to house interiors) and they purchase that size. Many players would be fine foregoing a house if they could get a house sized interior, especially when there would be no risk of demoltion.

If they implemented different sizes of apartments, I would buy a large and never take so much as another glance at ward houses ever again. A yard is nice but what I REALLY want is an interior that is large enough to be able to be customized to suit my tastes. If I could have that, I would be happy to forgo a yard.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

The crap item limit for Large plots is a huuuuge negative. To make something look lived in you have no choice but to wall off areas and it sucks. That said, I still rather have to wall off a bit and have more item limit and a huge garden than a small. I did have that same lavender beds plot for a while before I moved my fc house, I did really like that spot but what I HATED was the flowers dotted all over the grass and I couldn't get rid of it. So I moved us to shiro then to Ishgard.

[Darthgummibear]

If it wasn't for demolition I would aim for a medium, because it has the best space/limit ratio. As it stands I'll just stick with my apartment and FC room because I don't want to lose the ridiculous amount of time/gil/effort if I have to take a break from the game for whatever reason.