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  1. #1
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    Alise Reinhart
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    Suggestion for slower the guildleve reset time, and prize better rewards.

    I think that 36 hours per guildleve reset make this game bad, because everybody busy doing guildleve and have no time for anything else such as free roalming/ adventure/ or etc.

    Consider the time to finish just 8 leves in party is around 4-5 hours. Eventho people only do broken water area, it still take 2-3 hours. and not to mention local leve + walking time will cost around 4-5 hours too. (in case that you can only warp to 2 cities and walk for all camps)

    so every one and a half days, players want to get full benefit by doing all the leves every reset, and this consume their time for about 10 hours. I don't think any casual-average players have enough time to finish them all, and end up have no time for anything else. Thus, they can only experience the same routine guildleve again and again, and feel no enjoyment by doing it.

    In MMO, even if players not enjoy doing so, most players will still do whatever that give best rewards, and that is leves, so it is semi-forcing everybody to follow. I think this 10 hours per 36 hours is kidda too much. and I would like to suggest change it to 60 hours per reset or 72 hours per reset. in exchange guildleve should give boost more on SP/money/guildmark. This is all so that players will have more free time to do something else and not feel too bad toward this game.


    I m (quite) hardcore players (look at my rank in signature) but I m all for speak for most of my friends. I always see they doing guildleve whenever they log in, and have no time for anything else. and they even said they feel so bored on it. Most of them barely have time to finish all 16 leves, although they play 4-5 hours per day, which should be the expect play time from average players.
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    Last edited by Alise; 03-25-2011 at 07:46 PM.

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    Xatsh Vei
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    I think Leves are fine the way they are, what I think SE needs to do is add alot more options to level.

    Grouping
    -They need to make normal mobs worth killing in groups. Basically the same sp as leves without the faction credits and gil.
    -Make faction dropped gear better and add maby higher tiered nms. Say like a mega boss after you kill the 3 existing nms which drops some really good gear. Make it where although grouping on normal mobs is equally as good SP you have to do leves (with the casuals) to be able to do the faction Bosses.
    -Add Dungeons as a way to level for groups.

    Soloing:
    -Add some Defense battles like Campaign
    -Add maby some kind of Solo activity where you have accomplish a variety of task, maby similar to multi stage Leve with a mini boss or something.
    -Maby several daily quest or something where it rewards you some SP wit a sp scroll, similar to the ones in FFXI. (you can get them with faction credits, adds a limiting factor so people do not only Solo quest to endgame, also keeps ppl doing leves)

    basically keep leves as a primary source, add alot more equally as good options but link important things to faction credits so people do not stop doing them completely. That would be mu suggestion to SE.
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    the part that takes the longest i think is just making the party and getting full links picked out prior to heading out. after that the actual leves, u can 2star or 3 if u want to and u'll be done with all the good ones even if u do 2 of each of them in an hour or 2 tops. really no point at this point to do more then 2star and no point in doing any other then the best handfull and defenetly no point in doing less then full links(maybe 3-4links ok since good ones)

    and at this point anyone doing leves that is doing them for good sp is saving/abandoning the good ones. so shouting for people with them and doing those only is a little faster now, but still empty servers make it a pain.

    if u have a static with all the right ones picked out, u won't waist more then 2hour doing all of limsa and all of uldah good leves X2 each the best ones. bam bam done done. but i'd have to say i dont' like it like this one bit. i like the sp, i hate the method that we need to do to get good sp. they need to fix it so we not doing all of this b4 we start leves, i want to do grab and go and done.

    i'm 50 50 on what u'r saying, i like regular grinding mobs more then leves, way more, i hate the time inbetween them, i hate the grouping up for them, i hate the anima waisting and runnings. ffxi grinding is my favorite type of grind, i can make a party 20-60mins or whatever to get going be at a camp, and i'm keep it running for 8-16hrs. just replacing people as they leave, and in ffxi not as many replacements as u would think. waaay to many casual in other games. that is a thing they need fix as well, the ease of replacement of people. i want to party with the server not just a hardcore group of players that i know won't shit out on me in one hour.
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    I don't think SE should reward those free roaming to be equal to leves, because of the following :

    1. SE said at the beginning that they want leve to be a "quick boost" for casual players to easily catch up with hardcore players. Basically, leves should be able to allow players who log in only few hours aday to get quick major SP/Exp. (however, as it stand now, it take too much time to let any casual players finish them.)
    2. Leves is limited, while free roaming is not. So it should be that everybody do leves first, and then they should have a lot of remaining time enough to start free roaming or item hunting for extra exp and adventure experience. (So this is why I think leves should have slower reset)

    Nowadays, most players play style is similar to this :
    -Day 1 = LQ leves broken water + local leves. (total 3-4 hours)
    -Day 2 = finish the remaining leves, walk around. (total 3-4 hours)
    *(leve reset)*
    -Back to day 1.

    The ideal should be :
    -Day 1 = LQ battle leves x 8 and not only at Uldah, leves in other cities should have equal rewards to Uldah ones. (should finish within 4 hours)
    -Day 2 = crafts leves x 8, and have sometimes to walk arounds chating with LS. (should finish within 4 hours)
    -Day 3 = free activity days. free roaming, hunting, NM, normal crafts, interaction, etc. (it is important to have time for this!)
    *(leves reset)*
    -back to Day-1.


    Actually, most people nowadays even try to cut their boring leves time by only doing broken water, and always stay at Uldah. Even so, it is still not enough time for casual to finish them every reset. This should change.
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    I agree with several points mentioned by Alise, Weeble and Xatsh.

    1. I also feel that 36 hours for leves may be too short. In the past the timer used to be 48 hours. Maybe people complained about it being too long back then because at the time there was not much else to do besides leves.. so it was changed to 36.. But yea, these days it does feel like all we have time to do is guildleves (I'm talking mostly about battle leves).. They are not even fun to do. They are repetitive and boring. Which brings me to #2.
    2. We are kinda forced to do battle leves, as one of you mentioned. Why? Because SPing outside leves isn't as good. Regular SP parties are not encouraged. I'm not saying it's not possible. But you get much more SP from a leve party with links than a regular SP party. Now, as one you mentioned, we could do our leve parties, then do regular SP parties.. but again, 36 hour reset.. Once we finish the battle leves.. assuming we also have to do our crafting and DoL.. and other things like NMs.. that barely gives us time to do anything.
    3. I think they should boost SP gain from regular parties. Make it a viable alternative to leves. This way we are not forced to do leves. I also like my regular SP groups as in FFXI.
    4. Another idea, instead of giving us 8 battle leves to do. Why not reduce the number to say 4 and make them harder and more interesting. This way
    • We can maybe do all our leves at 1 or 2 camps instead of having to waste time and anima travelling all over the place.
    • Maybe make the leves more dungeon like.. More challenging. More fun. More mobs to kill but in the end around same SP that 8 leves would give us.
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    I also find that most of the time me and my friends would log on, pick up locals from all the cities, do them then gather up for levelinks. Just the crafting takes about over an hour then another hour or two to finish all the battle leves. Then they log off. I do hope that the resets are lengthened but with the sp increased so that the same sp is gained overall, because we all get pretty bored when we can't do much else ...

    reset every 2 days was pretty good, because if you didn't log on on some days, you might have missed a reset since reset alternates between 1 day and 2 days (though it is 36hours some of us can NEVER log on at certain times of the day due to work/school, reducing it to this.)
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    I just read the OP but I agree with your idea but big problem is there is completely nothing else to do !!!! So people would be pissed and bored to death including myself. I love to adventure and learn new zones so I been pretty much everywhere I can go in game atm.
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    In my experience, being a casual player, 36 hours is a short time to complete all my leves. I would certainly be in favor of increasing it to 48. To the hardcore that finish everything in a few hours, I can only sympathize. However it is, someone will be inconvenienced until they give us all more to do. But after that arrives, it would certainly make more sense to increase the leve reset. How could anyone enjoy new content if there is no time between leve resets to do it?
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    i been waisting my leves, i only do the good ones or max all 6 from rank 40, or 6 from 30's and i never end up using the extra's. seems like a lot of waisted sp i could of had but guess running to anywhere for 1 or 2 leves always seemed to me like a bigger time waist then anything. guess when game comes back on i'll try make use of them lol.
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    ... i dont' mind about lq just give other method that more excite to make sp pt group -3-...now i feel like final 13 kill bigass turtle for make fast sp only... do only loop lq that so boring....
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