Possible fix for more dps actions for Healers.

[Super_Smiley]

Just want to let others know I'm a casual healer, haven't healed in Extreme Trials or Raids as a healer.
Now having said that, I think there is a possible alternative to having more dps actions to healers.

Lets use WHM as an example,
Cure 1 upgrades to Cure 2. Freecure trait is deleted, and MP adjustment to Cure 2.
Medica 1 upgrades to Medica 2. Healing potency has increased and also has a regan effect.

With more healing actions replaced and more simplified, there is more room to add in more dps actions.
Basically the healing kit will have to be more simplified and the dps kit will have more depth.
This also makes sure there isn't no button bloat issues later on.
I hope this something the development team considers, but this my opinion on a solution for healers to have a more interesting dps kit. Curious what everyone else's opinions are.

[SpiralMask]

I'd be more than happy with changes like this, or by making skills manage a secobdary resource more (such as addersgall or the faerie guage), or insted of simply dps actions they added buffs or debuffs--as long as there's something interesting to do when no healing is needed.

A more robust dps kit would certainly make going through the story as a healer much less soulcrushing, however.

[lbr]

Agreed, we definitely have too many redundant heal buttons that are not even different in meaningful ways. Some of them would make sense if MP management due to constant healing was an actual thing, but that's clearly not part of the game. Fewer healing buttons would also make actually healing easier for newbies, as there's less choice paralysis.

[ty_taurus]

Just want to let others know I'm a casual healer, haven't healed in Extreme Trials or Raids as a healer.
Now having said that, I think there is a possible alternative to having more dps actions to healers.

Lets use WHM as an example,
Cure 1 upgrades to Cure 2. Freecure trait is deleted, and MP adjustment to Cure 2.
Medica 1 upgrades to Medica 2. Healing potency has increased and also has a regan effect.

With more healing actions replaced and more simplified, there is more room to add in more dps actions.
Basically the healing kit will have to be more simplified and the dps kit will have more depth.
This also makes sure there isn't no button bloat issues later on.
I hope this something the development team considers, but this my opinion on a solution for healers to have a more interesting dps kit. Curious what everyone else's opinions are.

That's essentially what healing used to be. You had a handful of healing tools, a handful of offensive tools, and a few self utility and/or group utility tools. Here's a comparison between SCH during ARR and SCH now:

ARR SCH
Healing Actions
- Physick
- Adloquium
- Succor
- Lustrate
- Resurrection
- Leeches (Esuna)
- Embrace (Faerie)
- Whispering Dawn (Eos Only)
- Rouse (Increases faerie's healing)
- Stoneskin (Barrier)

Offensive Actions
- Ruin
- Ruin II (Same potency as Ruin but instant cast and more MP)
- Bio
- Bio II (separate from Bio)
- Miasma (Single target DoT)
- Miasma II (AoE DoT)
- Energy Drain
- Bane (Spreads DoTs to nearby enemies)
- Shadowflare (Create a zone that enemies are slowed and take damage)
- Aero
- Thunder
- Cleric Stance (toggled stance for going into offensive mode, but lost healing potential)

Other Actions
- Aetherflow
- Sacred Soil (Did not have a regen)
- Virus (Lowered enemy Strength and Dexterity)
- Eye for an Eye (Buff on an ally that had a chance to inflict a damage down to enemies that attacked them)
- Protect (30 minute damage reduction on the party)
- Fey Illumination (Eos only)
- Fey Covenant (Damage reduction on the party; Eos only)
- Silent Dusk (Silence 1 enemy; Selene only)
- Fey Light (Skill speed buff on the party; Selene only)
- Fey Glow (Spell speed buff on the party; Selene only)
- Swiftcast

EW SCH
Healing Actions
- Physick
- Esuna
- Resurrection
- Whispering Dawn
- Adloquium
- Succor
- Lustrate
- Sacred Soil (Regen at level 78)
- Indomitability
- Deployment Tactics
- Emergency Tactics
- Excogitation
- Aetherpact
- Fey Blessing
- Summon Seraph/Consoluation/Seraphic Veil
- Embrace

Offensive Actions
- Broil IV
- Ruin II
- Biolysis
- Art of War
- Energy Drain

Other Actions
- Fey Illumination
- Aetherflow
- Dissipation
- Chain Stratagem
- Recitation
- Protraction
- Swiftcast
- Lucid Dreaming
- Surecast
- Rescue

Look at how heavy-loaded toward healing SCH is now, and keep in mind that the tanks and several DPS have gained sustain tools as well. Level 90 dungeons, midcore content, and hardcore content also tend to deal less damage to the party percentage-wise than they do in ARR content.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

As you listed cross class skills, how about Blizzard 2? It was useful in dungeons even after you got Miasma 2 as you could use it for aoe instead of constantly reapplying your dot. On WHM it was also useful before you got Holy.

[Zolvolt]

Cure I and Benefic I should probably be removed.

[Selvokaz]

Cure I and Benefic I should probably be removed.

they stay just in case you have to do lower-tier content randomly.

[WaxSw]

All tier 1 skills should be removed imo and add more skills like PvP deployment tactics (merging deplo and bane) or eukasia that allow for the jobs to consolidate more effects in less buttons

The new dps actions would need to be something used frequently and gameplay changing not just "standard 2m cd big hit" cause that only works when jobs already have a rotation

[Super_Smiley]

Upgrading/Simplifying the healing kit will also be beneficial for newer players. Where going into content not worrying on what to do when Tanks or dps need healing. Especially when their health drops dramatically.

When a Tank/DPS are doing well to avoid mechanics and mitigating, healers can have a more interesting dps kit, so it feels almost rewarding to use their dps actions.
Especially when healers at higher levels have more dps actions and a dps rotation that has a satisfying build up for a very damaging attack.

[Ayer2015]

These are the sort of changes I would like to see using WHM as an example. In this case the lily gauge would enable both healing and damage abilities.

Hard cast healing:
Cure (trait to Cure II)
Medica (no change)
Raise (no change)
Esuna (no change)

oGCD healing:
Afflatus Rapture (oGDC with charges)
Afflatus Solace (oGCD with charges)
Benediction (no change)
Regen (made AoE)
Asylum (Regen + dmg mitigation)

Buffs:
Protect (replace Aquaviel)
Temperance (dmg/healing bonus & mp regen)
Thin Air (mp regen & x duration no mp cost)
Presence of Mind ( no change)

DPS:
Glare 3 (no change)
Dia (no change)
Holy 3 (no change)
Assize (no mp regen, and shorter CD)


Lilly Gauge:
Blue lilies used to cast either Cure 3 (no MP cost) or Afflatus Misery (single target dps with aoe dot)
Pink lily enables Afflatus Purgation (single target dmg with aoe drop off & applies a potent regen to the party)

Removed:
Medica II
Tetragrammaton
Divine Benison
Plenary Indulgence
Lucid Dreaming