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  1. #21
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    Karasio's Avatar
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    Silver Faye
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brixy View Post
    To be fair, a lot of the toxic quickchat is because players can't actually type out or get the point across what they are trying to communicate. It's ironic that they removed chat to prevent toxicity, only to amplify the amount of people that misuse the quickchat for exactly that lol. Just proves that people will always find ways around the system. A lot of the irritation is not being able to correct mistakes from your team or get information across, and correcting said behavior doesn't have to be done in a toxic way btw~. The fact that they have received so many tickets on pvp and was forced to make a statement just proves that they didn't stop what they were trying to with the quick chat system. I would be willing to bet that allowing people to actually type or make macros for instant callouts would reduces the toxicity more than taking it away has added. Worst case you continue to report the people that are being toxic like what's going on now.

    "Fall back and regroup" Okay, but why are we falling back since our team is already here? Oh, the enemy Dark Knight popped their limit break and we are wasting a ton of resorces on someone we can't kill? They also managed to drag us all into a salted earth and a White Mage laser beamed us to death? Dang, the Dark Knight got a Quietus off and fully restored their health during that stun also? Why didn't someone call that out!? A ninja has limit break up and a few of us are already low health? Half the party is down and Leeroy is over here trying to 1 vs 5 and gets melted by the enemy team? Fall back and regroup doesn't really get the point across most of the time.
    That is precisely the issue! For me, at least, I get pissed specifically because I can't communicate with my team in a meaningful way. I see a dragoon LB going off and nobody on my team is guarding? Let me do *something* about it like godDAMN. It's frustrating how limited the quick chat is for a "competitive" game mode. Yes, there will be more people venting unfiltered thoughts, but the benefits can't be ignored. And clearly quick chat isn't doing what it was supposed to since they had to put out this whole statement on toxicity.
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  2. #22
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    Iyrnwaen's Avatar
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    Iyrnwaen Aispyrthota
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokelong View Post
    Why can't we use the chat normally in pvp? I know it's to prevent toxicness, but come on, it's a team game and we can only solo queue into the match. How can we communicate with only commands? It's really annoying using the limited commands we have. I think we are all old enough to block someone, if someone is toxic in chat.
    Please let us write in the pvp chat normally, don't punish the majority cause of a minority.
    No. Absolutely not.

    Try playing League for a bit. 100% of the meaningful communication is done through pings. Chat is always a dumpster fire. Always.
    There's no reason to expect it to be any different here.
    You don't have time in combat to type out meaningful commands, and between the brevity of the matches and their strategic simplicity,
    there isn't really any need for a significant volume of text outside of combat either.
    Chat would just encourage players to sit in spawn flaming their teammates instead of participating in comeback victories.
    I'm all for the addition of more Quick Chat options, but opening team chat up would have purely negative results.
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  3. #23
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    Karasio's Avatar
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    Silver Faye
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    Louisoix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnwaen View Post
    No. Absolutely not.

    Try playing League for a bit. 100% of the meaningful communication is done through pings. Chat is always a dumpster fire. Always.
    There's no reason to expect it to be any different here.
    You don't have time in combat to type out meaningful commands, and between the brevity of the matches and their strategic simplicity,
    there isn't really any need for a significant volume of text outside of combat either.
    Chat would just encourage players to sit in spawn flaming their teammates instead of participating in comeback victories.
    I'm all for the addition of more Quick Chat options, but opening team chat up would have purely negative results.
    In the 30 seconds before matches and during the 20 seconds it takes to respawn, you can plan out something fairly easily. Free chat wouldn't ONLY have negatives, if the dev team added a quick mute feature, like the video game you mentioned has. I stand by free chat having more potential benefit than the downsides
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  4. #24
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Lich
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokelong View Post
    Why can't we use the chat normally in pvp? I know it's to prevent toxicness, but come on, it's a team game and we can only solo queue into the match. How can we communicate with only commands? It's really annoying using the limited commands we have. I think we are all old enough to block someone, if someone is toxic in chat.
    Please let us write in the pvp chat normally, don't punish the majority cause of a minority.
    i think this is also to facilitate fair play with console players, who would find it harder to type during a match. You find similar ping systems in other cross platform PvP games.
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  5. #25
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    Iyrnwaen Aispyrthota
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    In the 30 seconds before matches and during the 20 seconds it takes to respawn, you can plan out something fairly easily. Free chat wouldn't ONLY have negatives, if the dev team added a quick mute feature, like the video game you mentioned has. I stand by free chat having more potential benefit than the downsides
    Plan out what? CC has zero strategic depth and very little tactical depth.
    The plan is push the crystal, and target macros are superior in every way to calling priorities in spawn before you see enemy positioning.
    Chat for CC would be 100% downside. I want my teammates playing the match and trying to win, not sitting in spawn having a dialogue about whose fault it is that the first engagement went south.
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  6. #26
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    Abysmal Duck
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Simple fix, allow open chat before the gates open and only at end of game, but we know the client isn't set up to be able to work like this.
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