Please, let us write in chat!

[Tobias_Azuryon]

You don't need to type in chat. We need specific helpful commands. 'Hello' isn't helpful.

We need specifs:
Jobs
ENEMY SAM LB CHARGED, BEWARE
DRG LB CHARGED, SPREAD OUT
WHM LB CHARGED, SPREAD OUT
NIN LB CHARGED, FOCUS!
MNK LB CHARGED, WATCH GUARD!
positionals
RANGED, STAND ON OBJECTIVE PLEASE
etc

We can't express ourselves atm.

On this note, more people need to chime in on the quick chat thread to keep it bumped and relevant.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...10#post5918310

[Ransu]

If they insist on forcing quick chat, I would also like a "stop feeding the enemy team" button, since "fall back and retreat" doesn't get through to most people. Everyone thinks they're a superhero that can take on the whole team by themselves, and then you're guaranteed to lose because the other team always has the upper-hand.

My favorite is when players chase an enemy through the backline. Had a team where 3 of my teammates chased this dude and then when the enemy team respawned those 3 were nowhere near the crystal and now its a 4v2 clean sweep....thanks, hope you all enjoyed killing that 1 lone player in the backline that was zero threat to anyone.

[Sindele]

Your team doesn't read your quick chats as it is. More expansive chat won't do anything but make you feel slightly more like you tried and expose everyone else to a toxic wasteland. Again, Feast happened. We know what unrestricted chat looks like. It's bad.

If it was something like more expansive markers/symbology for stuff like spread out/close in/etc, sure, but opening up chat? No. Won't change anything.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

Your team doesn't read your quick chats as it is. More expansive chat won't do anything but make you feel slightly more like you tried and expose everyone else to a toxic wasteland. Again, Feast happened. We know what unrestricted chat looks like. It's bad.

If it was something like more expansive markers/symbology for stuff like spread out/close in/etc, sure, but opening up chat? No. Won't change anything.

Yes and No. I had someone use those "target macros" that count down and junk and while they're obnoxious as hell they got the job done and people couldn't ignore them and we won the fight by focusing our efforts.

More options will always be better than less, and right now we have far too few to properly manage our team. I'm so tired of not being able to get someone to help me when I'm getting ganked in the back line because "attacking <t>" is too often used during the crystal push/fighting specific targets so people don't know that I really mean "Help me the NIN is taking my lunch money"

[Drium]

I guarantee you if they enable chat in CC, this will be followed by reports of a massive ban wave as 5% of the population on each server gets banned for toxic conduct.

[Verius_Nox]

No thanks. I don't need people standing in spawn to type out their little rant about why everyone sucks but them.

[Aubrey_A]

Well in light of this: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...4efa39f992435a

I think its safe to say it might be awhile before we see any form of chat.

I would love to see a pre and post-match chat at the very least for coordination purposes, but I suppose that would be going against the direction SE has planned (used for flaming, etc.).

[silverdragontyr]

People found a way to be toxic without being able to type and you want to give them more freedom? They gave us a chance at we told them we're not mature enough as a community to not be toxic in PvP.

[Brixy]

To be fair, a lot of the toxic quickchat is because players can't actually type out or get the point across what they are trying to communicate. It's ironic that they removed chat to prevent toxicity, only to amplify the amount of people that misuse the quickchat for exactly that lol. Just proves that people will always find ways around the system. A lot of the irritation is not being able to correct mistakes from your team or get information across, and correcting said behavior doesn't have to be done in a toxic way btw~. The fact that they have received so many tickets on pvp and was forced to make a statement just proves that they didn't stop what they were trying to with the quick chat system. I would be willing to bet that allowing people to actually type or make macros for instant callouts would reduces the toxicity more than taking it away has added. Worst case you continue to report the people that are being toxic like what's going on now.

"Fall back and regroup" Okay, but why are we falling back since our team is already here? Oh, the enemy Dark Knight popped their limit break and we are wasting a ton of resorces on someone we can't kill? They also managed to drag us all into a salted earth and a White Mage laser beamed us to death? Dang, the Dark Knight got a Quietus off and fully restored their health during that stun also? Why didn't someone call that out!? A ninja has limit break up and a few of us are already low health? Half the party is down and Leeroy is over here trying to 1 vs 5 and gets melted by the enemy team? Fall back and regroup doesn't really get the point across most of the time.

[Raistlin]

To be fair, a lot of the toxic quickchat is because players can't actually type out or get the point across what they are trying to communicate. It's ironic that they removed chat to prevent toxicity, only to amplify the amount of people that misuse the quickchat for exactly that lol. Just proves that people will always find ways around the system. A lot of the irritation is not being able to correct mistakes from your team or get information across, and correcting said behavior doesn't have to be done in a toxic way btw~. The fact that they have received so many tickets on pvp and was forced to make a statement just proves that they didn't stop what they were trying to with the quick chat system. I would be willing to bet that allowing people to actually type or make macros for instant callouts would reduces the toxicity more than taking it away has added. Worst case you continue to report the people that are being toxic like what's going on now.

"Fall back and regroup" Okay, but why are we falling back since our team is already here? Oh, the enemy Dark Knight popped their limit break and we are wasting a ton of resorces on someone we can't kill? They also managed to drag us all into a salted earth and a White Mage laser beamed us to death? Dang, the Dark Knight got a Quietus off and fully restored their health during that stun also? Why didn't someone call that out!? A ninja has limit break up and a few of us are already low health? Half the party is down and Leeroy is over here trying to 1 vs 5 and gets melted by the enemy team? Fall back and regroup doesn't really get the point across most of the time.

Ok, not even you believe that.

If there was a chat, the insults and blaming will be every game, you cannot be that naïve, we have all played LoL or Dota or similar. With chat, it will be the war. People AFK at base triggering the team because they didnt help, others typing while the only sane parson is under crystal defending...

No thanks, chat will be the end of PvP, it will be such disaster they will remove the ranked system.