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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    This wasn't due to perp cost. Community shoehorning ≠ Disliking not having avatars out eternally. Look back to every FF game with summoning, there was always some kind of cost for using them, either large MP costs, dealing with a random effect or removing your entire party out of battle while it's there, there's always a cost.

    ok. 1st off when leveling in a pt if a smn out of mp their dmg/healing/buffing out put is COMPLETELY gone. They cant do anything else. Unlike Blm which would have the same problem unless the Tank really stunk and need to back up heal the BLM is ONLY casting Black Magic. Unlike the Blm Smn is heal and or doing summons so they lose MP fast than Blm hence why they got the Biggest mp pool. And yes i stated the cost to summon the Avatar out like evry other FF out there with summoners in it. and to use there spells. there is your cost so Summoner is not broken or limited. Balance. FAIR



    They were thrown in for continuity sake. SMN enemies could use them so people would have complained if players didn't have access to them. They're used for restoring your MP.

    Ya no kidding. i mentioned that they are use for elemental siphon

    SMNs weren't backup WHMs in end-game pre nor post 75. A SMN with capped SMN skill and appropriate gear was a valuable asset to have.

    yes they were pre 75. when lvling a majority of the time they were ONLY healing unless there was a PL.

    Why? You couldn't summon them in other FF games when you had inadequate MP/Points/level/Whathaveyou, that would be broken. If SMNs don't need MP to keep avatars out, I demand being able to WS without TP or even being engaged in a fight, I also demand to gain 3k TP every time I strike an opponent and remove recast on WS everytime I land a combo.
    Obviously you never played FF10. and no shit you wouldn't be able to summon them if you didnt have the MP. i didnt even say that at all, im saying if you ran out of mp the Avatar can ONLY auto attack. Cause if the Pet goes away like in11 your damage is gone. Why bother having sumoner when you could just throw in a blm or another DD that isnt limited no dmg when they run outta mp.

    I swear its like you only read bits and pieces of what i said.
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    Last edited by KoujiGeki; 05-22-2012 at 03:39 AM.