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    Player
    Delsus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah, where else?
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    So let me get this right IF summoner is released you want to spam pet abilities with no cost, so why do my spells cost.

    If the add no perpetual cost either abilities will use alot of MP (3 abilities then its just a subpar DD), or the will go old school and you summon and it does one attack.
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    RedAffinity's Avatar
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    Au Rore
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Pre-75, place Summoner side by side with Puppetmaster and look at the difference. SMN was balanced beautifully, it was an alternate spike damage much like BLM at its core with dozens of other uses as a side capability. I'd welcome a similar Summoner in XIV with some minor changes to allow it to fit in with with this game.
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    I refused to main heal in EXP parties as SMN and it was my first job to 75. Took me three years, but I had damn fun doing it. The perp cost was never too bad. You got used to it and as a result battles flowed pretty well once you incorporated a strategy with them. The whole thing about Blood Pacts being on the same timer before they split them was the worst thing. After that, SMN was peachy.
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    Chardut Mazzma
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    I'll be incredibly sad if SMNS are just WHM substitutes. I'd love to see a new direction for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinumstorm View Post
    I'll be incredibly sad if SMNS are just WHM substitutes. I'd love to see a new direction for them.
    Ironically, they had zero magic in FFXI outside of avatars and spirits natively, if they branch off of the CNJ path guess what they will be if the community wants another healing class? Yep they'll be whm substitutes.

    WHMs that know how to play (yes this means healing people other than the tank as well) will do just fine without the need of a 'substitute' especially since they're in large quantity atm.
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    Irishwars's Avatar
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    Ireland Brimstone
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Is it 2014 yet? I am thinking that's the year when/if smn gets introduced

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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    Kouji Geki
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 100
    well the Player polls did show us what job they had in mind adding to the game both Musketeer and summoner were on there.
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    Player Andrien's Avatar
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    lets wait until the devs post a SMN job outline/direction first.
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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    Kouji Geki
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 100
    oh ya and by the way i didnt mention how long the recast for summon might be. and if the cost to summon them is high. look at how many aoe spamming mobs there are in the game which is why you see alot of the fight catering to ranged only job like ifrit or chimera. A summon will be killed very fast. i mean look at loldrg from 11 everytime the pet died from aoe that one of the reason why most people are like NO Wyvern pets. If the Cost of pets is big and you have to keep resummoning the Avatar youll run out of mp quick. now add a pep cost to that .or if SE gives Summons a long recast. do you see my point?
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    Gospel Gestalt
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    Balmung
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Goats are like mushrooms.
    If you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters.
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