DPS/Healers pulling in dungeons

[Kranel_San]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

As someone who tanks a lot. If you're a healer or a dps and want to make my life (And yours) easier and think we can take more then by all means please do so. I applaud your enthusiasm. Inspiring! I really like it

[Scaramouche]

If someone pull for me that means they either don't respect me or they want to tank.
So if you want to take my role I'll take yours and be a dps.

[Caurcas]

I often like to flex my healing prowess by pulling w2w if the tank is slow and gets salty. I like to look them deep in the eye as they are faced with their inadequacies and self important ego being deflated in real time.

[KariTheFox]

Never happens to me because I know where my sprint button is.

[Shin96]

This has become a trend after the surge of WoW players. Additionally this was solidified behaviour after tanks have become essentially obsolete with the removal of enmity generation aspected attacks.

Tanks are redundant now. It takes nothing to be a tank anymore hence why a DPS can assume this position. In fact with a RDM you can easily solo a dungeon now. Healers are also becoming obsolete with self-sustain options on tanks. (Warriors can even solo content on their own).

[SamsaraTrickstar]

This has become a trend after the surge of WoW players. Additionally this was solidified behaviour after tanks have become essentially obsolete with the removal of enmity generation aspected attacks.

Tanks are redundant now. It takes nothing to be a tank anymore hence why a DPS can assume this position. In fact with a RDM you can easily solo a dungeon now. Healers are also becoming obsolete with self-sustain options on tanks. (Warriors can even solo content on their own).

well this you got 100%. sadly most content do not need a tank or a healer or dps. you can go as 4 tanks and do fine or as 4 dps. 4 healers i think be a bit harder. but this what we will get as long as SE want to make this in to a solo game they can later port to mobile or something.

[Caurcas]

good thing kick is a thing then

I mean it's a free out and I can just requeue and get in another run within a few minutes. It's a win either way.

[Ath192]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them. In game this isn’t the norm, while double pulling is. Most people will be respectful and try to get along and when DPS or heal pulls they find it annoying but will most often say nothing to keep the peace. So there it is.

Truth is it’s annoying and rude behavior. Even more so than a tank single pulling. The argument of respecting peoples time falls apart the moment you zoom out and realize you are playing a video game so everyone in the game is wasting time. Albeit doing something they enjoy.

So when you pull and aren’t the tank, nobody will like you for it. They may put up with you or at best not mind it too much, but it is noticed and mostly not appreciated. As long as you know this go ahead and keep justifying it.

[Shin96]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them. In game this isn’t the norm, while double pulling is. Most people will be respectful and try to get along and when DPS or heal pulls they find it annoying but will most often say nothing to keep the peace. So there it is.

Truth is it’s annoying and rude behavior. Even more so than a tank single pulling. The argument of respecting peoples time falls apart the moment you zoom out and realize you are playing a video game so everyone in the game is wasting time. Albeit doing something they enjoy.

So when pull you and aren’t the tank, nobody will like you for it. They may put up with you or at best not mind it too much, but is is noticed and mostly not appreciated. As long as you know this go ahead and keep justifying it.

I don't like it either but they do have the means of healing incoming damage after the initial pull. At that point letting them die looks like an act of arrogance on part of the tank. Respect in this game isn't common so I wouldn't expect it at all.

All they have to do is re-establish the holy trinity without the power creep and lack of balance. DPS simply shouldn't be both healers and tanks. Blame SE for their lack of perspective on this.

I'd also add that damage in this game means little to nothing anymore. You can eat vulnerability stacks without suffering significant damage.

[KariTheFox]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them.

Hi, I'm the tank coming in to be an enabler. I just want to make it very clear that if you're a healer or dps in a group with me and pull ahead of me, I will first - wonder how you did that? Did I drop my controller or something?

Second, promptly catch up and reestablish control of the pull.

Third, maybe throw an aurora on you just for fun.

And finally, thank you internally for making this dungeon run a tiny bit more interesting.