DPS/Healers pulling in dungeons

[Scaramouche]

Unless i'm misunderstanding this is griefing, the tank not doing their role intentionally?

I have a lot to learn as a tank so if you pull I will assume

a) Its a more efficient way to deal with the dungeon for you to tank I'm yet aware of.
b) You want to tank.

If you pull for me because you trust me capable of handle your mess then I'll repay you by trusting you are able to deal with it.

If you ask me to pull more I'll do it. But if you don't state your intentions I can only make assumptions.

[Saraide]

I have a lot to learn as a tank so if you pull I will assume

a) Its a more efficient way to deal with the dungeon for you to tank I'm yet aware of.
b) You want to tank.

If you pull for me because you trust me capable of handle your mess then I'll repay you by trusting you are able to deal with it.

If you ask me to pull more I'll do it. But if you don't state your intentions I can only make assumptions.

Both of those are obviously wrong, they trust you to do your job and continue to do so. That means continuing to use mitigation and your aoe attacks and not drop stance.

[hagare]

I have a lot to learn as a tank so if you pull I will assume

a) Its a more efficient way to deal with the dungeon for you to tank I'm yet aware of.
b) You want to tank.

If you pull for me because you trust me capable of handle your mess then I'll repay you by trusting you are able to deal with it.

If you ask me to pull more I'll do it. But if you don't state your intentions I can only make assumptions.

what if they pull and bring it to you and stack it with your pack?

[Nestama]

I have a lot to learn as a tank so if you pull I will assume

a) Its a more efficient way to deal with the dungeon for you to tank I'm yet aware of.
b) You want to tank.

If you pull for me because you trust me capable of handle your mess then I'll repay you by trusting you are able to deal with it.

If you ask me to pull more I'll do it. But if you don't state your intentions I can only make assumptions.

The only assumption you should make in that situation is "I guess I can try wall to wall." Any other assumption you make is a stupid excuse to grief, especially if they bring the mobs back to you.
Tanking isn't hard to figure out. You just use your AoE combo to hold hate, cycle through your mitigations (bosses don't really need you to use Rampart and {2-minute CD}, so you can save those for the trash) and you're golden.

[DeNada]

I think people just need to communicate better. Instead of dps/healers pulling, why not just politely ask the tank if he's okay to go with larger pulls?

[Alaray]

it's not a big deal, getting up in arms over a DPS who pulled a pack is pretty ridiculous. AoE and move on. Be annoyed or w/e, vent to your friends or w/e but at the end of the day getting angry enough to grief a party over it is pathetic.

none of this needs the moralizing people do. it's a videogame. none of this matters to someone who's well adjusted.

[HisShadowX]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

This has been going on for years. As I see you are new. Its considered rude if your a DPS and Healer and Pull and don't bring it to the tank. What many PC users don't understand if your using a gamepad a simple Provoke is pointing on clicking on a mouse and keyboard on a gamepad its cycling the gamepad sucks at cycling unless you're using the D-Pad Up and Down to heal in which healing is a great on a gamepad.

AOE works very well on the tank but depending on the damage output to the mobs well your pulling AOEing can cause you to lose certain mobs.

So as a tank and there has been threads about whether this is right or not, but if someone pulls and refused to bring you to the mob let that person die. Bottom line when your in a battle and a DPS pulls and runs away due to them getting hit big time if you run to save him you might direct the other mobs you have directly on another DPS or even the healer.

The DPS is a pawn in the game and they can be killed and brought back without a problem, but the party is screwed if the healer and tank losses.

[Silverbane]

Two friends and I did Duty finder with me as a WAR and them as DPS.
I am just picking up WAR again after my post-Stormblood hiatus, so I was cautious on pulls.
The Healer we picked up wasn't cautious and proceeded to lead the charge.
Maybe I could have been annoyed, except ... he or she made it work.
My friends and I laughed a lot on Discord.

It's just a game. I don't let stuff like that bother me.

[elioaiko]

When I tank, it doesn't bother me. I usually try to wait for the tank to pull first especially if they're new or undergeared.

If they're my friends, I trust them.

But it's really not that big of a deal tbh. Aggro is easy to control now.

[DixieBellOCE]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

There is a simple solution to this which actually makes you a better player.

PULL
IT
ALL

Nothing more infuriating than a tank that pulls 1 group at a time, grab it all, AOE it down. Damage at this point in the game is a joke.