Healers need an overhaul

[ty_taurus]

I'll just say that SGE is perfect !

If you like SGE that's fine, but I really don't think it successfully captures the DPS healer sales pitch that we were given about the job. It still spams Dosis as much as every other jobs spams their filler spell. I really love SGE's aesthetic, and I'm actually a small amount Hopeful of what it might get in 7.0, but I feel like it has a lot of wasted potential and could be so much better.

[AmiableApkallu]

If you like SGE that's fine, but I really don't think it successfully captures the DPS healer sales pitch that we were given about the job.

As far as I'm aware, that was never the sales pitch for the job.

[ty_taurus]

As far as I'm aware, that was never the sales pitch for the job.

I don't recall which interview it was in, but I do firmly remember someone asking the question about players who want more DPS options on Healers, and Yoshida's response was something to the respect of 'Sage is the new healer that places higher emphasis on attacking. We believe if you're looking for a more offensive healer, this job should satisfy you.'

[AmiableApkallu]

I don't recall which interview it was in, but I do firmly remember someone asking the question about players who want more DPS options on Healers, and Yoshida's response was something to the respect of 'Sage is the new healer that places higher emphasis on attacking. We believe if you're looking for a more offensive healer, this job should satisfy you.'

Isn't that in the thread I just linked to? Except with an interpretation of Yoshida's response that I think mischaracterizes what he actually said.

Even if not, "higher emphasis" is not the same as "the job's main emphasis," and "more offensive" is not the same as "offensive." It's about relative differences.

The current Kardia is exactly inline with a "more offensive healer" when you compare it to the other healers. It doesn't make SGE a "offensive healer", sure, but even in your recollection, that wasn't the sales pitch.

[ty_taurus]

Isn't that in the thread I just linked to? Except with an interpretation of Yoshida's response that I think mischaracterizes what he actually said.

Even if not, "higher emphasis" is not the same as "the job's main emphasis," and "more offensive" is not the same as "offensive." It's about relative differences.

The current Kardia is exactly inline with a "more offensive healer" when you compare it to the other healers. It doesn't make SGE a "offensive healer", sure, but even in your recollection, that wasn't the sales pitch.

I don't think's true though. Having sustain gained through DPS doesn't actually do anything to change the playstyle or DPS frequency of SGE in contrast to the other healers. Even if we want to say that our interpretation of what he's said is a mischaracterization, I don't think any interpretation of describing SGE as an "offensive" healer is any more or less true than describing WHM as an offensive healer. It's like saying, "these bananas are vegan and gluten free!" Cool, so are all other bananas.

[Recon1o6]

if sage was an actual dps healer, then at the very least it would have pneuma more frequent or on a charge system

[tearagion]

Isn't that in the thread I just linked to? Except with an interpretation of Yoshida's response that I think mischaracterizes what he actually said.

Even if not, "higher emphasis" is not the same as "the job's main emphasis," and "more offensive" is not the same as "offensive." It's about relative differences.

The current Kardia is exactly inline with a "more offensive healer" when you compare it to the other healers. It doesn't make SGE a "offensive healer", sure, but even in your recollection, that wasn't the sales pitch.

yeah "scholar, but more boring and not as good" doesn't really sell a job as well as "more offensive healer" or "higher emphasis on damaging abilities", can you really blame them?

[Maltothoris]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus..._october_2022/

Now not to say it's completely accurate which it even saids so since it only accounted for people were wearing on the lodestone so in some cases the gap would be even wider but point here is that healers are imbalanced in that in an ideal setting they are much lower played than the other roles in comparison.

[Rolder50]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus..._october_2022/

Now not to say it's completely accurate which it even saids so since it only accounted for people were wearing on the lodestone so in some cases the gap would be even wider but point here is that healers are imbalanced in that in an ideal setting they are much lower played than the other roles in comparison.

Can't get much more clear cut then that; healer shortage across all DCs

[ASkellington]

Can't get much more clear cut then that; healer shortage across all DCs

They said "if you don't like the role, leave".

Here's what it looks like when we leave. Shocker.