Healers need an overhaul

[Ayche]

You could remove the slack additional healing power gives, but that will just make progs and struggle normal trial/raid runs more painful.
One man's overhealing is other's saving grace.

[ASkellington]

You could remove the slack additional healing power gives, but that will just make progs and struggle normal trial/raid runs more painful.
One man's overhealing is other's saving grace.

Or... you could remove some of our oGCD heals and replace them with some extra dps/support buttons so we

1. GCD heal more because part of the problem is that we never have to touch it because we have too many healing tools
2. Give us something to do when we're no longer healing

[Ayche]

Or... you could remove some of our oGCD heals and replace them with some extra dps/support buttons so we

1. GCD heal more because part of the problem is that we never have to touch it because we have too many healing tools
2. Give us something to do when we're no longer healing

But the skill expression and proper reaction times exist in the oGCD space. Like if you could manage all healing checks by spamming Succor, that would be pretty boring too.
And if you only had Cure 2 at your disposal when you are trying to desperately keep people taking spot damage when the next raid wide is already being cast, it would be too slow for the job.
Is more hard casting actually the solution?

[ASkellington]

But the skill expression and proper reaction times exist in the oGCD space. Like if you could manage all healing checks by spamming Succor, that would be pretty boring too.
And if you only had Cure 2 at your disposal when you are trying to desperately keep people taking spot damage when the next raid wide is already being cast, it would be too slow for the job.
Is more hard casting actually the solution?

At no point did I say to replace 1 button dps spam with cure/benefic/physick spam. I don't think you're understanding what I'm getting at.

I want to dip more into my GCD heals because that means my oGCD heals are actually a resource to manage now.
It is infinitely more fun for me to go in Orbonne Monestary and have nothing but ES, CU and CO and 1 charge of ED than my entire heal kit at 90 because the damage is more frequent and I can't just use the same oGCD for the same raid wide. I actually have to plan it out.

I don't want GCD healing to replace oGCD healing. I want more engagement when I heal by making my oGCDs more of a resource to manage (by limiting how many I have) than it is to simulate a better balance between doing DPS and healing.

You can also do this by adding in more dps buttons to press.

[Nethereal]

Like if you could manage all healing checks by spamming Succor, that would be pretty boring too.

You can, you just don't because it's not efficient. Because of all the oGCD heals you have. Remove them and that's what you would be doing. We have way too many oGCD skills that do the exact same thing.

[FatalFatalis]

If they really are this focused on making the game DPS-centric, then they should make the dps rotation for healers more complex, anything is better than spamming 1.
Since we are seeing that the content can be optimized so you only need the ogcd heals, how about you remove the gcd heals and replace them with damage skills and spells? Something like how tank mitigation works, almost all of it is ogcd and you have an actual rotation, it's simpler than the DPS ones but it's something.
Why are the healers and only the healers treated like this?

[Rehayem]

If they really are this focused on making the game DPS-centric, then they should make the dps rotation for healers more complex, anything is better than spamming 1.
Since we are seeing that the content can be optimized so you only need the ogcd heals, how about you remove the gcd heals and replace them with damage skills and spells? Something like how tank mitigation works, almost all of it is ogcd and you have an actual rotation, it's simpler than the DPS ones but it's something.
Why are the healers and only the healers treated like this?

Because Yoshi-P nor the entire FF14 team ever played healer for longer than a day, which is why they're doing this. They thought it was too complex, now they're making it brain dead. Just remove the healer role entirely, or make them dps. Why need healers if tanks can heal themselves?

[Katori96]

And even this is debatable. Mindless healing is still mindless healing.

This is fair altho I'll admit to getting a huge dopamine rush when I get to use my toolkit as a healer.

[Picker]

I’m not a healer main, I’d say secondary main? I’ve never begun a tier on scholar, but I usually gear it second. Anyway, I’ve been playing scholar in ex3 and it’s been a total blast. I’m not super hardcore, but always clear a tier before echo; currently curtain call prog, and my statics healers are like the opppsite of the forum healers - they love it and don’t complain about the minutae at all

[Semirhage]

I’m not a healer main, I’d say secondary main? I’ve never begun a tier on scholar, but I usually gear it second. Anyway, I’ve been playing scholar in ex3 and it’s been a total blast. I’m not super hardcore, but always clear a tier before echo; currently curtain call prog, and my statics healers are like the opppsite of the forum healers - they love it and don’t complain about the minutae at all

You enjoy spending 80% of your time spamming Broil? How?