Healers need an overhaul

[Banriikku]

"Milestone"? What does this even mean?
What i see is:
Over simplyfication, too much clutter that could be removed, class identity is almost deleted and at a alltime low

The devs design a OGCD healer without the need for it and leave us with "1111121111" spam.
Where or what is that "Milestone" you talk ? Old skills ? We lost some and got some back - just a back and forth.
The healer design has no direction - heck, i think who ever is in charge of healer design should give the healers to somebody else and just design something they like. Because the whole healer design at the moment feels like "i dont like this but its a job"- thing.

[Renka777]

current healer design is boring as fuck since shadowbringer, i was a former AST one trick pony before 5.00... now i ditched that job for shit obvious reasons and i'm not even sure which jobs/role i enjoy the most at this point
i heard that they plan to do a rework on AST for 7.00, i hope they will finally be back in the right track while also fixing others healers designs

YoshiP : "if you want challenge play ultimate" -> it dosnt matter everyone still spam that fucking one button dps in thordan ultimate so fix your fucking shit for once instead of keep ruining the game, especially on the healer side for more than 2years

Might be seen as a very salty message but as a healer main i'm just fucking angry at them

[Nethereal]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to gut all our oGCDs and make them GCDs like WHM's Afflatus moves.

They have to force you to heal SOMEHOW.

Even if the total amount of healing isn't actually being increased you're simply being forced to press your dps button less.

[Raven2014]

Really? Sage is my favorite healer. While I feel like their sets could be a bit more interesting, I'm not sure I understand why Sage would be singled out as the job with stuff "all over the place."

Same, it's the best designed healer ATM for me. So much that I'm switching from an AST main to a SGE main for next raid tier.

[RyuDragnier]

They have to force you to heal SOMEHOW.

Even if the total amount of healing isn't actually being increased you're simply being forced to press your dps button less.

Then here's a suggestion for them. Stop giving oGCDs for everything then, and give us more to actually heal. I remember having to shield a lot back during early Omega days in Stormblood, just from the damage going out. Especially Catastrophe, if any DPS was under a specific max HP (which was likely the first few weeks), his raidwide was a guaranteed 1-shot if not shielded.

[Raskbuck]

Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-...4M_18NhpPR3ojs

What a depressing, but accurate, depiction of modern healing game design.

[LestatXero]

I just want to say how happy I am hearing and seeing so many different opinions about this thread that I made out of love and genuine frustration so many months ago. Sadly, that frustration grows a little bit every day as I sit in PF after PF hoping and praying for healers to join the party only for people to eventually give up and leave after a while. Despite the game being bigger and more popular than ever it's become incredibly difficult to get people to queue up for current endgame content as healer despite getting a new healer this expansion and with savage dungeons on the immediate horizon. Reading through this thread my only hope is that the devs see this discussion and keep everything said in mind as they continue to develop the game. Regardless of how you may personally feel about this topic, I would hope and assume that everyone who took the time to click on this thread did so because they truly enjoy playing this game and want it to be a fun and healthy experience for everyone. I will continue hoping for this as well and cross my fingers about what the future will bring.

[Supersnow845]

I just want to say how happy I am hearing and seeing so many different opinions about this thread that I made out of love and genuine frustration so many months ago. Sadly, that frustration grows a little bit every day as I sit in PF after PF hoping and praying for healers to join the party only for people to eventually give up and leave after a while. Despite the game being bigger and more popular than ever it's become incredibly difficult to get people to queue up for current endgame content as healer despite getting a new healer this expansion and with savage dungeons on the immediate horizon. Reading through this thread my only hope is that the devs see this discussion and keep everything said in mind as they continue to develop the game. Regardless of how you may personally feel about this topic, I would hope and assume that everyone who took the time to click on this thread did so because they truly enjoy playing this game and want it to be a fun and healthy experience for everyone. I will continue hoping for this as well and cross my fingers about what the future will bring.

Honestly it’s annoying for us all but I kinda hope that this absolute deficit of healers continues, if a lack of healers begins to actually affect how the game functions it might finally be the catalyst that gets square to realise the healing design in this game is utter rubbish

It might do nothing but it’s also about the only way we might see a change

[RyuDragnier]

Honestly it’s annoying for us all but I kinda hope that this absolute deficit of healers continues, if a lack of healers begins to actually affect how the game functions it might finally be the catalyst that gets square to realise the healing design in this game is utter rubbish

It might do nothing but it’s also about the only way we might see a change

Or once again the devs will miss the problem and dumb down the healing kit thinking that healing is the problem when it's the DPS side of it. Which would be stupid since they actually got healing in Savage right this time around, with a hell of a lot more raidwide damage going out that actually hits really hard and requires the party to work together to mitigate it, and tankbusters that leave a nasty DoT on the tanks. So at least they figured out healing for Savage...now make the DPS side better for stuff that isn't that intensive and we'll be good.

[zabu]

Healer is really in bad situation.
When lack of DPS, people blame healer; when lack of heal, people also blame healer.
People never appreciate hard work that healer did. I need to admit a lot of people play healer just because is easy and can get carry.
But guess what, when SE make healing harder, good healer love it, bad healer run away, eventually healer drought cuz everyone blame healer for everything. Just like P5S-P8S and also E4S.
Of course, improving healer system is what SE need to do. But, on the other end, everyone in FF14 community especially tank and DPS player should also help healer by using mitigations and appreciate healers for doing both healing and DPSing at the same time, and improve PF raiding culture, since healing is not just healers job in this game.