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    Rhaeyn Baelasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    It's bugged, their damage isn't supposed to create 4 separate DoTs, it's supposed to refresh the time and damage of the first one (i.e stacking DoT) so yes, definitely an abused bug

    Edit: Note how their shield works in white shift, it doesn't create 4 separate shields, it simply increases the first shield, the DoT is supposed to work the exact same but doesn't.
    It's 3 unique DoTs and yes, they are all supposed to stack. They are all different icons with different names. And the White Shift version is *also* 3 different barriers that stack their total value when they're all out.

    The DoT damages through Guard because DoTs calculate their damage based on mitigation when applied, you have to actually Guard the combo itself rather than the DoTs.
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    Last edited by Atmaweapon510; 04-23-2022 at 08:22 AM.

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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Edie Ul'mehdi
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atmaweapon510 View Post
    Snip.
    Okay, I just switched to RDM and into black shift, looked at the melee combo, looked at the job effect sheet.

    Can you point to me where it says "adds a unique Damage over time for each attack"?

    Here's the tooltips:


    Enhanced Riposte: Deals unaspected Damage with a potency of 6000
    Black Shift effect: Damage over time duration 6s potency 4000
    Enhanced Zwerchau: Deals unaspected Damage with a potency of 7000
    Black Shift effect: Damage over time durations 6s potency 4000
    Enhanced Redoublement: Deals unaspected Damage with a potency of 8000
    Black Shift effect: Damage over time duration 6s potency 4000

    You see the DoT element is exactly the same for each, this would speak to the DoT as a refreshed element (as it is for other jobs) as opposed to a separate element

    As it exists, you get 12,000 potency from 3 DoTs all ticking at the same time while also doing 21,000 potency from the combo itself WITHOUT VerFlare

    that's 33,000 potency add verflare it's 45,000 potency.

    add in Corps a Corps, you're doing 60,000 potency (Corps a corps' potency + the 20% damage increase to everything else) with a single combo without ever having to do any hard set up, you just click a target, corps a corps in and press one button repeatedly.

    Now let's put this in context against a melee DPS, I play NIN so what can NIN do with a combo:

    Open with Assassinate: 12,000 potency
    Mug: Increases damage by 10% 2000 potency attack
    Bunshin into Three Mudra to set up your shadow attack clones and your biggest burst hit
    Hyosho Ranryu: 16,000 potency + 8000 from Bunshin : 24,000 attack
    Fuma Shuriken: 6000 potency + 4000 from Bunshin (it's halved on Fuma Shuriken)
    Forked Raiju to stop them getting away: 4000+8000 from Bunshin
    Fuma Shuriken: 6000 potency + 4000 from Bunshin
    Fleeting Raiju: 4000+8000 from Bunshin

    End of combo.

    So let's say you have someone stay completely still for that long time, doesn't guard and let's you do the full combo: 88,800 potency (providing the target never moves, never uses guard and you land everything perfect under mug, which is not going to happen)

    Now what's the difference here.

    That's a full combo using all your Mudras and cooldowns, if someone sits and doesn't guard through any of that, they absolutely deserve to die, if someone lets you stay on someone for the full combo, they deserve to die, it will take you 8 GCDs to go through the entire combo.

    the RDM melee combo is 4 GCDs, do you not think that's a problem? you're 20k less potency than a NIN using every single cooldown and not using any defensives

    And you get to ignore Guard as well for the DoTs.

    The DoT is bugged, the melee combo is intended to be a Finisher, not 100-0 for just pressing two buttons, I dunno how anyone can think that's fine.
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