Housing Rant

[Nepentha]

Mentioned in Kotaku (Click bait champion of the world, but still)

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/04/in...ousing-crisis/

the amount of misinformation in that article.

oh why do I bother.

[Shibi]

the amount of misinformation in that article.

IKR!

Kotaku normal! "You won't believe what Naoki did to FFXIV housing!"

[Jojoya]

Has Kotaku ever been anything but tabloid journalism for the gaming world?

[Shibi]

Has Kotaku ever been anything but tabloid journalism for the gaming world?

There are some trying for the crown!

[Nepentha]

There are some trying for the crown!

I laughed so hard when I read that. It has to be satirical. No one is this ignorant.

[Themarvin]

to put it simple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anByAnxx8EA

It is an idiot with a mic, that in populistic way is trying to get attention and don't got what it takes to be civil about it anyway.

How am I goign to take this person serious, with all these curse words, it is highly immature, and I would say it cater especially to very young people who does not know better anyway.

You can maximum have 1 house 1 fc house per account per server, if that person has multiple accounts, then they are paid for.

[Corvus_V]

It is an idiot with a mic, that in populistic way is trying to get attention and don't got what it takes to be civil about it anyway.

How am I goign to take this person serious, with all these curse words, it is highly immature, and I would say it cater especially to very young people who does not know better anyway.

You can maximum have 1 house 1 fc house per account per server, if that person has multiple accounts, then they are paid for.

No one cares. You shouldn't have multiple service accounts so you can own multiple houses, and you should lose them all anyway. There is no way when you're contributing to that much of the problem that you're unaware its an issue, someone will tell you at some point and you have to decide on your own (as an awful person) that you don't care. That's just breaking the system.

In general, shell FCs owning houses is insane, and should provide almost no benefit whatsoever. You're only supposed to have one FC to do Company Workshop stuff with. At the very least, it should be the case that shell FCs (if they must exist) don't need a house to do any of that, just disassociate housing from company workshop activity. SE didn't give you an officially sanctioned work around by having you make other service accounts to own extra houses; they put the limitation there purposefully.

I really don't know why anyone would be opposed to instanced housing. If people complained enough about housing to get them to implement a stupid lottery system, they should clamor for that instead and get them to finally just do that.

[Themarvin]

No one cares. You shouldn't have multiple service accounts so you can own multiple houses, and you should lose them all anyway. There is no way when you're contributing to that much of the problem that you're unaware its an issue, someone will tell you at some point and you have to decide on your own (as an awful person) that you don't care. That's just breaking the system.

In general, shell FCs owning houses is insane, and should provide almost no benefit whatsoever. You're only supposed to have one FC to do Company Workshop stuff with. At the very least, it should be the case that shell FCs (if they must exist) don't need a house to do any of that, just disassociate housing from company workshop activity. SE didn't give you an officially sanctioned work around by having you make other service accounts to own extra houses; they put the limitation there purposefully.

I really don't know why anyone would be opposed to instanced housing. If people complained enough about housing to get them to implement a stupid lottery system, they should clamor for that instead and get them to finally just do that.

IF this is the new servers you refer to, then you can only have 1 house 1 FC per account per server, the amounts of houses you see there is either an FC with other people in it which has their alts make an FC + buy a house and possible multiple subscriptions involved as well.

Otherwise SE would step in as you have used a hack or exploit, as for the idiot with the mic, I stand with statement and so should you, was nothing but rude, immature and the typical conspiracy terrorist approach things adding nothing to the debate other than fuel on the fire, nothing constructive nothing at all nada, he earns his money on haters and easy to push people much the same way as terrorist leaders lures new prospects into their fold then tell them lies.

[Jojoya]

No one cares. You shouldn't have multiple service accounts so you can own multiple houses, and you should lose them all anyway.

There's nothing wrong with owning multiple services accounts to partake more of the game content you enjoy. Those who do are paying more to get the additional access.

The problem is SE not limiting the number of houses a single service account can have when there are not enough houses for every service account to have one house let alone multiple houses. The problem is SE prioritizing FCs without setting standards for what separates a FC from a solo player.

If the limit was 1 personal, 1 FC house per service account then someone with a single service accounts would still only have 2 houses. Because the limit is 1 personal and 1 FC house "owned as buyer" per world per service account, someone with one service accounts is technically able to get up to 9 houses per world and up to 80 houses total. Getting all 80 on a single service account is not likely to happen due to competition for plots on most worlds but we see it's certainly possible when there's no competition.

We can complain about what other players do all we want but as long as they are playing within the rules of the game, they are doing nothing wrong. It's on SE to fix and enforce their rules.

Provide evidence of them doing something. They aren't doing anything about it.

They are doing things. They aren't doing meaningful things that will solve the problems. They only deter those not really committed to housing as content, or who lack the time needed to take advantage of the loopholes.

But then that's what comes from having players insist a lottery will make them happy when a lottery doesn't solve what's actually making them frustrated.

[DeNada]

There's nothing wrong with owning multiple services accounts to partake more of the game content you enjoy. Those who do are paying more to get the additional access.

The problem is SE not limiting the number of houses a single service account can have when there are not enough houses for every service account to have one house let alone multiple houses. The problem is SE prioritizing FCs without setting standards for what separates a FC from a solo player.

If the limit was 1 personal, 1 FC house per service account then someone with a single service accounts would still only have 2 houses. Because the limit is 1 personal and 1 FC house "owned as buyer" per world per service account, someone with one service accounts is technically able to get up to 9 houses per world and up to 80 houses total. Getting all 80 on a single service account is not likely to happen due to competition for plots on most worlds but we see it's certainly possible when there's no competition.

We can complain about what other players do all we want but as long as they are playing within the rules of the game, they are doing nothing wrong. It's on SE to fix and enforce their rules.


They are doing things. They aren't doing meaningful things that will solve the problems. They only deter those not really committed to housing as content, or who lack the time needed to take advantage of the loopholes.

But then that's what comes from having players insist a lottery will make them happy when a lottery doesn't solve what's actually making them frustrated.

Yeah, I thought a lottery system would prevent hoarders from buying up several houses in a single round due to the 30 days restrictions but somehow the hoarders managed to find a loophole and circumvent the restrictions? This is especially obvious in Materia where a single FC has bought over the entire Ward 2 of Goblet district in all 5 Materia worlds, which should not be allowed in the first place? Unless each single FC is a separate service account?