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  1. #1
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    Mugenity's Avatar
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    Tifadore Valorheart
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90

    Time to Update The Triple Triad Card Gathering Options?

    Hello.

    I would like some feedback relating having fun gathering triple triad, and if my views are universal or not.

    My experience, the current card gathering are meant as a way to not only introduce you to the different content, but also show mastery of it. However, some of this has not aged well, but could be hot fixed rather quickly. Overall I recommend lowering the level from mastery to introduction, and allow for more triple triad play instead.

    RNG dungeon content:
    Currently there are many many cards that can be gathered through dungeons and card challenges across the world. Some cards however are exclusively gathered from dungeons alone. Some even require RNG from the very hardest dungeons. This is especially difficult for older dungeons few do anymore (like shadowbringer savage).

    Solution:
    Create NPCs that can be played for these dungeon exclusive cards. These NPCs would be unlocked at the same time you unlock the normal version of said dungeon.

    Beast tribes:
    There are two that comes to mind, the moogle and dwarves. Both of these are crafting beast tribes which also requires you to have crafting at hand. Beast tribes are mostly a thing of the past, but still allow unlocking certain content like mounts, housing items or cards. The oldest tribes takes many months to unlock.

    Solution:
    Increase the reputation gained significantly. Alternatively allow for playing the NPC that unlocks at full beast reputation to be played at a much lower level.

    Blue Mage:
    Blue mage is a separate adventure open world exploration and skill replication.

    Solution:
    Add an new NPC you can play for all cards after unlocking the first skills through totems. Make the cards purchasable for gil at the old completion level.

    Eureka:
    A separate adventure allowing you to "start over" with your current character in a different world.

    Solution:
    Add an new NPC you can play for all cards after unlocking the second dungeon.

    Bozjan:
    A leveling zone. It was meant as a decent way to level solo, possible for dpses having a hard time getting queue content.

    Solution:
    Add an new NPC you can play for all cards after completing the first dungeon (the one currently only allowing 2 cards to be won). Make the cards purchasable for bozjan coins at the old completion level.

    If all else fails:
    A very quick way to fix this is by having all of these cards purchasable at the golden saucer or unlockable by playing games there.
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  2. #2
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Sometimes i want to relax in game with activities that are not battle related..
    So.. often i go on with the collection of the cards.. Problem is that A LOT of them are tied to extreme and wathsoever..

    For god sake PLEASE let casuals a way to get them just playing the TT game.

    thanks
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  3. #3
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Agreed. TT is supposed to be a super casual side activity. I totally get having to play OP NPCs and spend loads on MGP for cards, but locking cards behind such a wide variety of battle content and low dungeon/boss drop rates seems very much at odds with the concept. (Been there, done that, got the mount, and a lot of it sucked.)
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    Last edited by Brightamethyst; 04-26-2022 at 03:19 AM.

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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    If anything, the card attached to MM EX needs a different way to obtain. I got it, but it took almost 100 runs. Can be tough to find long running parties to grind for it because there's not much reward other then dyable job gear.
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  5. #5
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    IckeDerTyp's Avatar
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    Rhea Seren
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    It's fine to not have everything!

    Am sure your collection is amazing even without the EX cards ^^
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  6. #6
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Agreed. TT is supposed to be a super casual side activity. I totally get having to play OP NPCs and spend loads on MGP for cards, but locking cards behind such a wide variety of battle content and low dungeon/boss drop rates seems very much at odds with the concept. (Been there, done that, got the mount, and a lot of it sucked.)
    Just because Triple Triad is casual side content, doesn't mean the completionist aspect of it has to be just as casual. Players who casually play TT can make plenty of decks that work well, without having 100% of the cards.
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  7. #7
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The increase to the TT card rates from NPC's was a huge positive and I had a lot of fun going through them 1 by 1, unlocking quests if necessary and building my collection.

    ...Then I got the part where you need a bunch of low droprate cards from dungeons, EX's and raids and lost interest again. I could do it no problem if I wanted to, I've farmed EX for mounts before, but it's just not worth it for a side activity that I would rather relax with.
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  8. #8
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Just because Triple Triad is casual side content, doesn't mean the completionist aspect of it has to be just as casual.
    Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with cards coming from battle content on principal. I just think it's stupid that some of the drops rates are so incredibly low. It should not take potentially dozens of dungeon runs or boss kills to get a card.

    They should definitely unlink Varis and G-Warrior from EX content though. That's just mean.
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  9. #9
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with cards coming from battle content on principal. I just think it's stupid that some of the drops rates are so incredibly low. It should not take potentially dozens of dungeon runs or boss kills to get a card.

    They should definitely unlink Varis and G-Warrior from EX content though. That's just mean.
    I can see it being annoying to farm Varis EX, even though unsync should make it easy enough, simply because the trial doesn't have any rewards past dyeable AF.
    On the other hand, G-Warrior isn't even a drop. It just requires a single clear of Ruby/Emerald/Diamond Weapon EX, which should be easy enough unsynced. And those trials even have mount drops, so finding players running them shouldn't be difficult.
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  10. #10
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    If you want cards from EX trials, just do EX trials, whats the problem? they are not that hard.
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