Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
I think the dumbest thing is that any kind of interaction with a SAM that has Chiten active will cause you to get the debuff, even applying DoTs or non-damaging CC.

Making the debuff only trigger on single target abilities that actually cause damage would make it much more manageable.
if you do this it will lead to the inverse, the lb being pointless... that the trouble of balance. but all in all... the solution is super simple and complicate at the same time... stun, polymorph and simply stop attack when chiten is release. since you have no Diminish Return... you can technically stun lock the sam when he drop chiten.

i can understand that it's frustrating to get os by the lb, but like said it ask a setup and when you have a sam in the enemy team the best way to deal with it... is focus the sam and drop him fast for not let him charge the lb. it what people most of the time do to me as SAM and it work perfectly... since a SAM in melee have no real tool for flee...

and personally i fear more a ninja that can chain kill people at -50% hp than a ninja since it can become invisible and attack from ranged. a sam you know he is here and you can technically always see him for focus it. it can be tricky against a ninja.
and even like this i feel the SAM lb is far to be the most op broken LB around... can we talk of the WAR or WHM lb that have multiple effect for one button press? no condition attached, simply press the button en enjoy the multiple effect for free.

Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
Nothing like being 100% HP and then just dying and not knowing what killed you. Such skill, so much fun....not.

Having LB's in pvp was a mistake.
honestly thanks gods we have the lb, or it will be painfull as pvp experience. some job don't have the tool for be good without the lb and the lb can turn around a situation... it's the goal of a lb after all. (even if some need to be adressed either because too strong or too weak)