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    SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep's Avatar
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    Ake Homura
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    Carpenter Lv 90

    Doubling down on "Playing solo" is a stupid direction

    Don't get me wrong. Trust system for low level dungeon is great.

    However, the general idea/direction behind it is just misguided. Am I the only one who's annoyed that me and a few other friends who decided to play FFXIV essentially have to play solo 80% of the time through MSQ? And we eventually just decide to not bother and play something like Civ6 for our game nights.

    Have better support for multiplayer through MSQ. Like letting 2 or 3 people party for dungeon and fill the last spot with trust. Let us choose to start from the same starting point etc. New Game+ doesn't even give exp so I can't play an alt job with another friend on a new play through.

    FFXIV is bad for multiplayer through MSQ, and the way to fix it is not "to make solo experience better". Please make MSQ more multiplayer friendly.
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    Ravor Elliard
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    About the partying up for dungeon, you can still queque normally and find other player to help, the trust or solo system exist for people who dont want to engage with other player or human at all or just want to chill alone. Concerning the new game +, yes please make it give you EXP, even if just 50% exp i will still do it, this way it will reward and encourage more player to do new game + along other new player
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Golem
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep View Post
    Don't get me wrong. Trust system for low level dungeon is great.

    However, the general idea/direction behind it is just misguided. Am I the only one who's annoyed that me and a few other friends who decided to play FFXIV essentially have to play solo 80% of the time through MSQ? And we eventually just decide to not bother and play something like Civ6 for our game nights.

    Have better support for multiplayer through MSQ. Like letting 2 or 3 people party for dungeon and fill the last spot with trust. Let us choose to start from the same starting point etc. New Game+ doesn't even give exp so I can't play an alt job with another friend on a new play through.

    FFXIV is bad for multiplayer through MSQ, and the way to fix it is not "to make solo experience better". Please make MSQ more multiplayer friendly.
    I would personally prefer being able to fill empty slots with trust, for a half PC half NPC party, but that's work for SE, so; probably unlikely. I agree, though.

    In general, more options is better. They just don't really seem to care about that.
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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
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    Rask Crowe
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    I'd like if we could do the MSQ instances with someone else. This is something that Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 excelled at, which have similar instanced content like FFXIV. I can play through the entirety of the main story instances with my friends in those games, without having to disband our group every so often to tackle things separately.
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    it's not really a way to push people to buy skips there is multiple ways to level easily without msq or need of skip

    releveling with NG+ would just be speed run of msq
    mashing through text and skipping cutscenes i wouldn't really call that fun
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    Singleplayer version of the main story is the futureproof version of the story.
    That means one day they can just cut away all of ARR and make it all instanced content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep View Post
    Don't get me wrong. Trust system for low level dungeon is great.

    However, the general idea/direction behind it is just misguided. Am I the only one who's annoyed that me and a few other friends who decided to play FFXIV essentially have to play solo 80% of the time through MSQ? And we eventually just decide to not bother and play something like Civ6 for our game nights.

    Have better support for multiplayer through MSQ. Like letting 2 or 3 people party for dungeon and fill the last spot with trust. Let us choose to start from the same starting point etc. New Game+ doesn't even give exp so I can't play an alt job with another friend on a new play through.

    FFXIV is bad for multiplayer through MSQ, and the way to fix it is not "to make solo experience better". Please make MSQ more multiplayer friendly.

    So the Hardcore Minority are utterly confused as you are as why people like New Game Plus, since it does not give into their accomplishment. As most of the Hardcore Minority are more masochists and like things hard. Its like someone going into BDSM and getting pleasure from the pain. People like OP cannot comprehend why the majority of the customers like this stuff. To be honest OP as a member of the hardcore minority its time you people accept games made for you do not do well or sell anymore. In fact, they go free2play or die.

    Games you think are good or easy are in fact hard to the normal person.

    I know you most likely think games like City of Heros, Matrix Online and so much others are such good games but they were hard and are not good games. The only games made for you people that still exist are Everquest, FFXI, and of course Eve Online.

    However, there is a new Buy2Win game made for you people and its designed for you people in mind as you people helped kickstart it. I highly recommend you check out Star Citizen as again it has you people in mind. Buckle up buckaroo supposed its a very painfully hard game to play and I am sure you people will get pleasure out of it.

    Though its lack of population might be a problem as you people often need a highly populated game to go into to chide people about something or another and it gets lonely after a while but the SWG people were hermits for a while until they had to shut down that game because again it was designed for you people in mind and was a game no normal people kept playing.
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    Last edited by HisShadowX; 04-22-2022 at 11:20 PM.

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    Revon Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    So the Hardcore Minority are utterly confused as you are as why people like New Game Plus, since it does not give into their accomplishment. As most of the Hardcore Minority are more masochists and like things hard. Its like someone going into BDSM and getting pleasure from the pain. People like OP cannot comprehend why the majority of the customers like this stuff. To be honest OP as a member of the hardcore minority its time you people accept games made for you do not do well or sell anymore. In fact, they go free2play or die.

    Games you think are good or easy are in fact hard to the normal person.

    I know you most likely think games like City of Heros, Matrix Online and so much others are such good games but they were hard and are not good games. The only games made for you people that still exist are Everquest, FFXI, and of course Eve Online.

    However, there is a new Buy2Win game made for you people and its designed for you people in mind as you people helped kickstart it. I highly recommend you check out Star Citizen as again it has you people in mind. Buckle up buckaroo supposed its a very painfully hard game to play and I am sure you people will get pleasure out of it.
    The current state has nothing to do with a sense of 'accomplishment' as you call it but rather an insult to intelligence.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    They wont even make regular quests give worthwhile EXP.
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