Add TT Card 295 (Eden's Promise) to NPC battle or increase droprate?

[GGVickz]

I'm probably not the first person asking this, but is there any chance this card can get added to an npc battle? This card has an extremely low drop chance, and incredibly hard to get a group together for now. I've been having to wait 10-15mins for a synced queue to pop at peak hours and hope for the 1% droprate (according to arrtripletriad). This is my last card and would hate to spend more time queuing for the fight than the fight itself. Can this please be considered for an npc battle since we are now in endwalker?

[Vahlnir]

It's not a solution, but most cards have a slightly higher drop rate in higher end content. Might not hurt to look into doing the Savage version of that fight. I was fortunate enough to get this card back in Shadowbringers, but I know many weren't so lucky. I wouldn't be opposed to having more sources for various cards.

[MellowMink]

This card is stupidly rare; I’ve done this raid countless times and still don’t have it. There should be some additional way to unlock this, even if it’s something silly like needing to trade in raid sword treasures; at least our really bad luck would eventually be guaranteed to end then.

[Naraka]

It takes hours to find a group for the normal version, wtf?!

[dspguy]

SE should consider changing a few things about TT cards:
- make TT cards from trials be obtainable by trading in X tokens. Personally, I'd say 10 tokens is more than fair when you consider a mount costs 99
- make TT cards from 24-man not be "greed-able" by those that already have the card

What is the point of these "Need" and "Greed" buttons? I get that what is "need" is subjective to the player. What I'd recommend is this:

- you can't sell a card for MGP until you already have it added to your deck
- you can't Need on a card that you already have (if you have a checkbox next to the card, it is greed only).

Eventually, we'd get to the point where everyone has the card already, and then it will truly be Greed - selling the card for MGP. Which is fine.

For those that insist they earn their 1500 MGP from selling these cards, keep in mind that it is chump change. You get something like 50k/week just for talking to the fashion report NPC. And running a mini-game or two nets you far more than 1500 MGP.

[Iscah]

- make TT cards from 24-man not be "greed-able" by those that already have the card

What is the point of these "Need" and "Greed" buttons? I get that what is "need" is subjective to the player.

Greed is exactly what players should be rolling if they already have the card. "I don't need this, but I want it."

Need always wins over Greed, and for gear it isn't subjective at all. It just hasn't been adapted well to the cards, especially now that the game can run a check for whether you've acquired it and show that on the icon.

If everyone is hypothetically being considerate and not wanting to take a second card before others have their first, they can roll Greed and be safe that they'll only get it if others don't want it more. (Assuming the others understand that Need is the more powerful option, anyway.)

[dspguy]

Greed is exactly what players should be rolling if they already have the card. "I don't need this, but I want it."
If everyone is hypothetically being considerate and not wanting to take a second card before others have their first, they can roll Greed and be safe that they'll only get it if others don't want it more. (Assuming the others understand that Need is the more powerful option, anyway.)

Sadly, our playerbase would never do that. The chances of all 24 players in a raid lotting Greed on something they already have is near-zero. As we both said, the capability is there to actually put this into practice. There was a time when players would self-police. However, that breed of player is dead. If the developers don't do it, it won't happen.

[Iscah]

Sadly, our playerbase would never do that. The chances of all 24 players in a raid lotting Greed on something they already have is near-zero.

Yes, but my point is, that is why Greed is there and why there is still a point to the option being available. Some people will still voluntarily roll on that lesser tier and reduce the number of people in the running for it.

Personally I want a third tier below Greed so I can be at a lower level of priority than "want but can't Need".

[Ano540]

This is long overdue. As dspguy says, trial cards should be made available through tokens, and I entirely agree. It doesn't seem uncommon to have someone say some trial card that's not even difficult is what they need to get their mount.

I got lucky getting the E12 card within <10 runs, but on the flip side I've run Thordan roughly 200-250 times and have not gotten that card, and Byakko took around 160. It's very silly.

[dspguy]

This is long overdue. As dspguy says, trial cards should be made available through tokens, and I entirely agree. It doesn't seem uncommon to have someone say some trial card that's not even difficult is what they need to get their mount.

I got lucky getting the E12 card within <10 runs, but on the flip side I've run Thordan roughly 200-250 times and have not gotten that card, and Byakko took around 160. It's very silly.

It is ridiculous to earn more tokens than needed for the mount and still not have the card.