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  1. #21
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    LOL they will literally never ever fix it. I promise you just be ready to be disappointed . Sure this little glitch will be fixed for now but actual housing issue where everyone pays for the game but only 1 out of every 10,000 player can have a house ? wont ever be fixed i promise.
    That's not what they are addressing. The lottery bug fix is SE addressing the 0 winner bug (among other things).

    However, the lottery system itself will ultimately "check the box" it was always designed to:
    - Remove the hours-long placard clicking against RMT and other players that used bots
    - Get houses in the hands of FCs

    That's what it fixed. And it looks like it did.

    The lottery was never designed to address the housing supply. If people were hoping lottery, Empyreum or this upcoming bug fix were going to address the supply problem, you were bound to be disappointed. 1,440 new plots makes a difference to many players, but barely makes a dent in the demand.
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  2. #22
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Now you need to be able 30 days old in that FC to inherit it or buy it from another player.
    30 days isn't a long time.

    For resellers, the issue is will SE actually do something to try to find resellers and ban them if detected. SE doesn't have a history of being proactive in these situations, or even reactive when resellers were being reported to GMs. Wouldn't take much for a few brave resellers to use isolated accounts as guinea pigs to see if they can get away with continuing to resell. They may not make profits as quickly but the potential is still there.

    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    That's not what they are addressing. The lottery bug fix is SE addressing the 0 winner bug (among other things).

    However, the lottery system itself will ultimately "check the box" it was always designed to:
    - Remove the hours-long placard clicking against RMT and other players that used bots
    - Get houses in the hands of FCs

    That's what it fixed. And it looks like it did.

    The lottery was never designed to address the housing supply. If people were hoping lottery, Empyreum or this upcoming bug fix were going to address the supply problem, you were bound to be disappointed. 1,440 new plots makes a difference to many players, but barely makes a dent in the demand.
    The only thing that the lottery does is remove the need to be clicking a placard at the right moment.

    There will still be competition from those obtaining houses for profit (whether gil or RMT) though at least the odds shift slightly in favor of the house going to someone wanting to use it as housing.

    The lottery itself does nothing to get houses into the hands of FCs. It's the fresh supply and the FC versus personal purchase restrictions on the wards that are getting the houses into the hands of FCs. Once this supply dries up, FCs will be back to struggling to get a house especially since more and more players are now encouraged to go the shell FC route for the sake of getting access to a house for personal use. That's a bonus for players with alts that have wanted their alts to be able to share housing or have shared storage. Those players will be competing directly against FCs for anything in the FC wards.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 04-23-2022 at 05:40 AM.

  3. #23
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    Jaina Proudmoore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condygurl View Post
    Not sure who told you that, but with the new system you cannot bid with alts on your account for multiple homes if you already own one. And if you place a bid as a FC, then you can't bid on a private one. They supposedly stopped the multi-lot owners a few patches ago. And you can't flip a home that easily anymore since you have to be a member of a FC for 30 days before you can become lead. That was implemented in patch 6.1. Sure prior to that they were selling FC's like candy for hundreds of millions of gil but now that simply won't be possible unless you're willing to hold onto a home for more than 30 days. Not really worth it if you ask me.

    SE screwed up on the totals though. We have nearly empty wards for FC only, and now with all those moving from other areas to the new zone, it has caused housing to open up by the ton, but its mostly slotted for FC's even though many of those were owned by private individuals. So at least on Mateus, they didn't fix anything they just made entire wards with just 5 or 6 houses, while the personal housing is still so limited that people had over 100 bids for one single house.
    sorry im noob with this account so it wont let me post many replies whats is happening say 1. youre the leader / owner of a fc lets call it frank fc and you have say 10 members ( not alts of you but actual other players ) and all 10 of them having alts with fc's nothing is stopping them all bidding on the same lot to increase the chance of winning a specific lot say ward 1 lot 20 mist there is now 11 bids basically by the same fc and well within the rules of the lotto system but turning the odds in their favor !!

    this is actually happening !!

    i was unaware that you cant change leadership for 30days was different when i had houses .. even still it may tie up gil but you know what extents people will go to to make real money or even in game gil its not stupid to just keep bidding on lots to hang on to them for 30 days then start selling them at huge costs..

    also im sure youre aware of the extents fc's and players will go to to get a house in this messy system the dark web exists and has been used often ive read for players fed up with not being able to buy or camp win a lot for their fc ..

    this could be fixed in a heartbeat .. just remove housing and go to a few instanced lots scattered in a major cities with backyards a basement so you can do decorating and the housing only activities that should have never been introduced forcing housing to be such a needed item for players to experience the locked behind housing activities.

    the current system is great in the aspect that you can have freedom of decorating designing lots and on display for all to see but as the population grows and how its growing in the wake of WOW refugees and ffxiv becoming the #1 mmo how many housing servers can the game sustain before its to much !!

    N/A servers would of been filled day one i can assure you if it wasnt for the 0 bug and most likely were as i was on bryn so i know the N/A servers well.

    i moved to oceanic servers where zurvan is prob the lowest population of all them and there was plenty of lots that were not even bid on

    in the end where does that leave all the players that lost till the next expansion or 6.5 - 6.8 maybe for them to add more wards again ??
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    Last edited by iluke77; 04-23-2022 at 09:35 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    That's not what they are addressing. The lottery bug fix is SE addressing the 0 winner bug (among other things).

    However, the lottery system itself will ultimately "check the box" it was always designed to:
    - Remove the hours-long placard clicking against RMT and other players that used bots
    - Get houses in the hands of FCs

    That's what it fixed. And it looks like it did.

    The lottery was never designed to address the housing supply. If people were hoping lottery, Empyreum or this upcoming bug fix were going to address the supply problem, you were bound to be disappointed. 1,440 new plots makes a difference to many players, but barely makes a dent in the demand.
    if you look at my post #23 or maybe just above the lotto system is not a fix to rmt or bots in fact its just places another square enix system ( for the lack of a better word ) on a already and still exploitable system !
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  5. #25
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    Hua Tuo
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    ok, so, as per the message on lodestone, the housing fix will be implemented after a separate maintenance at a later date after 6.11 patch next week. Which means, again, an ambiguous fak knows when!! I hope this complete fiasco of a new housing system will serve as a rude awakening to the sleeping SE housing devs.
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    Last edited by HuaTuo; 04-23-2022 at 10:23 PM.

  6. #26
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuaTuo View Post
    ok, so, as per the message on lodestone, the housing fix will be implemented after a separate maintenance at a later date after 6.11 patch next week. Which means, again, an ambiguous fak knows when!! I hope this complete fiasco of a new housing system will serve as a rude awakening to the sleeping SE housing devs.
    They're already aware of the problems with the system. They're not trying to fix those problems.

    All the lottery is doing is saving players from themselves by removing a mechanism that promoted unhealthy behavior (placard camping).

    When all is said and done, how many players are going to quit the game solely because they're unhappy with the housing situation? Maybe 1%? That's not enough to get most businesses to act.
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  7. #27
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    Tyria Xepheles
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuaTuo View Post
    They didn't give any update since 18th, and for a fiasco of this proportion, yes I'd say that ages!
    3 days is not "ages." Especially going into the weekend...
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