Crystalline Conflict Is Hot Garbage

[Brixy]

Let me start of by saying that this mode could be good and it has a solid foundation. Unfortunately, that's about the only good thing I can say about it currently. It's VERY clear this new pvp was not tested at all. There are so many issues all over the place that could easily be fixed.

- Matchmaking is absolute dog shit currently. There is no reason to be matching people outside of their rankings. Especially multiple ranks outside of said rank. Why are bronze getting matched with gold players? Why are Platinum getting matched with Crystal? Terrible design.
- Solo queue with basically no communication. What the actual fuck was the idea behind this? Just random bullshit go? Because that's what every game is currently. You have effectively taken the power out of the player's hands and left it up to RNG. Instead of actual communication... people spam the same messages when they get mad because their team doesn't do what they want them to. "Good job" devs! "Good job" devs! "Good job" devs! "Good job" devs! "Good job" devs! There is no pre-planning during those awkward 30 seconds where we all stare at the gate waiting for it to open to see if we got stuck on a competent team or not.
- Purify? More like Pure-a-lie. This is suppose to be your option to deal with the barrage of bullshit the enemies will be locking you down with, because everyone has bullshit yay! This needs to be changed to actually function. Nothing like pressing it to remove something and INSTANTLY getting another debuff on you, rendering the button useless a majority of the time.
- Broken limit breaks. Ninja is my pvp main and I've ran through entire teams multiple times with my limit break. Does it feel good? Sure. Is it insanely broken when used correctly? Absolutely. There are plenty of jobs that need their limit breaks looked at and toned down.
- Recuperate needs to be nerfed. Either increase the mp cost, or nerf the healing potency. It's far too easy to recover, which leads to drawn out fights where both sides are trying to get something started, then back off, then try again, then back off, etc... You want to recover? Then back up and use your Elixer.
- Hackers already ruining the game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go ahead and reward them with those top 100 rewards while everyone else has to deal with people abusing unfair gameplay.
- Job balance is all over the place. Why would I ever want a PLD and/or BLM on my team when I could have a WAR and/or WHM instead? This not only leads to a stagnant meta, it also punishes people, and their team for actually trying to play jobs that are underperforming.

[Velnora]

SE insists on micromanaging social interactions, because apparently telling someone to get on the crystal or focus x target is "toxic". Thus, ruining it for everyone else that wants to actually have effective communication in online competitive play.

[Garnix]

Matchmaking is like that because it is solo-queue, and because the majority of players are going for the "meta job", and it seems the matchmaking is trying to balance it out based on jobs and rank, not only on rank.
Job balance certainly needs adjustment, but for a first patch post-revamp, I think it's decent.
Regarding LBs, I think it's ok. People just don't watch out for LB gauges yet.
Recuperate is fine. People just need to focus target instead of having 5 duels...
But basically, all of this can be adjusted by job balance changes.

Agreed on purify though.
And yeah, Top 100 rewards is not good with hackers.

[Qeilos]

SE insists on micromanaging social interactions, because apparently telling someone to get on the crystal or focus x target is "toxic". Thus, ruining it for everyone else that wants to actually have effective communication in online competitive play.

We both know thats why there isnt chat if youve played any pvp game before. Not that I agree with it but lets not act like its because of telling people how to move. Its because for example if a dps were to dash in get CCd and immediately killed in the initial locked crystal phase of the fight you damn well know things like "I cant believe you are this fking stupid, why are you in my game, go uninstall you worthless piece of filth excuse for a human being" THIS is what they are trying to prevent and it is something you see ALOT in team based pvp games.

[Velnora]

We both know thats why there isnt chat if youve played any pvp game before. Not that I agree with it but lets not act like its because of telling people how to move. Its because for example if a dps were to dash in get CCd and immediately killed in the initial locked crystal phase of the fight you damn well know things like "I cant believe you are this fking stupid, why are you in my game, go uninstall you worthless piece of filth excuse for a human being" THIS is what they are trying to prevent and it is something you see ALOT in team based pvp games.

Yeah, I thought this game had" such a great community" though.

And, so? It's amazing how all other games manage to do it just fine. Lets not ruin everyone elses experience for the minority. Or else, should we not remove chat from dungeons? From pug raids? If we're going to be logically consistent.

[Nanne]

Yeah, I thought this game had" such a great community" though.

And, so? It's amazing how all other games manage to do it just fine. Lets not ruin everyone elses experience for the minority. Or else, should we not remove chat from dungeons? From pug raids? If we're going to be logically consistent.

When one small piece of content will provide 90% of the harassment reports I would say it saves so many hours of GM work to just disable the chat. Also you have plenty of time to write a book in PvE than in a 5 minute hectic PvP match

[Velnora]

When one small piece of content will provide 90% of the harassment reports I would say it saves so many hours of GM work to just disable the chat. Also you have plenty of time to write a book in PvE than in a 5 minute hectic PvP match

If someone is toxic, then report them. Again, why should everyone else be deprived of being able to communicate? And there is plenty of time to chat. Before match, while rezzing, etc.

[Qeilos]

Yeah, I thought this game had" such a great community" though.

And, so? It's amazing how all other games manage to do it just fine. Lets not ruin everyone elses experience for the minority. Or else, should we not remove chat from dungeons? From pug raids? If we're going to be logically consistent.

I dont think many games handle it well though, its one of the prevailing reasons new people dont start League. I also said I dont agree with it, my experience inside these games has taught me WHY they did it. A PvE community and a PvP community are not the same thing. Not even remotely close. The tolerance and helpfulness one might have helping someone learn boss mechanics goes out the window when someone is actively making them lose games. I can explain how things work in the new EX, I cant explain to you PvP fundamentals that you mostly learn over time in that type of game.

[Velnora]

I dont think many games handle it well though, its one of the prevailing reasons new people dont start League. I also said I dont agree with it, my experience inside these games has taught me WHY they did it. A PvE community and a PvP community are not the same thing. Not even remotely close. The tolerance and helpfulness one might have helping someone learn boss mechanics goes out the window when someone is actively making them lose games. I can explain how things work in the new EX, I cant explain to you PvP fundamentals that you mostly learn over time in that type of game.

And yet, many games do. And with how enforced this games TOS is, I don't understand the argument against it. It's competitive play, in an MMO. If people can't stand the heat, then they probably shouldn't be doing it.

[IDontPetLalas]

I absolutely disagree with the attitude that PVE players are oh so much more genteel than PVP players - I have often met extremely helpful players in both community, just as I've encountered truly poisonous ones in both. However I do understand that it's impractical to type out text during CC, and the ide of doing so during rezzing is also impractical since (a) many of us want the spawn times reduced and (b) ideally we avoid re-spawning as much as possible anyways.

I really would wish that we would be allowed to type in party chat in the time we have before the match starts- that could allow time for a short macro or quick chat to agree on who to focus and could be really helpful.