The Ranking system has made me just about quit Ranked altogether

[Qeilos]

It didn't take obnoxious amount of time to reach crystal, something like 3 days of on-off playing? A friend was stuck in Diamond loop but got out the next day.

Secrets to winning RNG lotto? Because im like 342 games deep playing a bit more hard than on and off and I cant move at all from the depths of plat hell.

[ThaCa]

Secrets to winning RNG lotto? Because im like 342 games deep playing a bit more hard than on and off and I cant move at all from the depths of plat hell.

Just be lucky I guess? I went from unranked to Gold in 7 losses (mostly at end of silver games) on WHM and then winstreaked to mid Plat from Gold 4 on SCH. After that I played a lot of BRD with a bit of SCH in the mix and with very few losses streaked to mid Diamond.

There the real grind begun and I had to try like 6 times at rank up game and falling back to mid Diamond twice. It took about 70-something wins in total to get to Crystal.

Few other friends finished their grind and also agreed that Diamond too longest (mostly over 100 wins total), before that you have more carry potential but it will weaken the higher you get. There will still be unwinnable games and the game does try its hardest to cut your win streak down (my first Silver to Gold rank up attempt was in full high Plat game).

[Qeilos]

Just be lucky I guess? I went from unranked to Gold in 7 losses (mostly at end of silver games) on WHM and then winstreaked to mid Plat from Gold 4 on SCH. After that I played a lot of BRD with a bit of SCH in the mix and with very few losses streaked to mid Diamond.

There the real grind begun and I had to try like 6 times at rank up game and falling back to mid Diamond twice. It took about 70-something wins in total to get to Crystal.

Few other friends finished their grind and also agreed that Diamond too longest (mostly over 100 wins total), before that you have more carry potential but it will weaken the higher you get. There will still be unwinnable games and the game does try its hardest to cut your win streak down (my first Silver to Gold rank up attempt was in full high Plat game).

It must just be that im playing only SMN, it doesnt feel like I have persistent agency in a game. I can help spike finish someone off if someone else made them low but considering my entire kit outside of Ruin is on longish cooldowns i feel like im hoping my team hasnt essentially lost the game before I get to my LB.

[ThaCa]

It must just be that im playing only SMN, it doesnt feel like I have persistent agency in a game. I can help spike finish someone off if someone else made them low but considering my entire kit outside of Ruin is on longish cooldowns i feel like im hoping my team hasnt essentially lost the game before I get to my LB.

Yeah SMN has similar agency to SCH and excels at grinding the enemy team down with all the AoE damage, they are also great counter initiators due the low CD on the bind and being able to charge enemies who overextend. It should be possible to rank up on one, but it's probably harder than the more solo target bursty Jobs since people's teamwork is lacking on lower ranks and they often over commit.

[Hysorn]

I mean, what this game is missing is a ranked group queue, even if takes longer to find a match when compared to soloQ. Like come on, this is an MMORPG, it doesn't matter if Yoshi said RPG comes before MMO or whatever, PvP is and always will be more fun with friends, such a wasted opportunity that boggles the mind. Not to mention that some class would have a much better chance to shine in coordinated group play, DRK being one.

[Oextra]

I agree with you to an extent. Personally I wouldn't care if they took away rank decay since rank is rather pointless, but I could see how that would upset a lot of people. A middle ground would be something like a MVP system that rewards those who perform the best on either team. Like who did the best out of all 7 categories or something.

From here, they could make it so the MVP of the losing team doesn't get a rank decay. The MVP on the winning team could either get an additional star, or not lose a star if they lose their next game (regardless of getting MVP in the next game or not). Something along the lines of this would be much appreciated by most I think. Since it would reward the best effort at least.

[Iyrnwaen]

It's easier to get into Crystal than it is to get into the top tier in any PvP ranking system I've ever seen in any game. You get extra stars for win streaks and you can't de-rank out of a tier.
It's actually much too easy, which is why Crystal is already becoming a cesspool.

You've completely missed the point of what rank is supposed to indicate in a competitive environment. It's not supposed to be something you "grind out". The problem is your mentality, not the system.
If you're not enjoying ranked play, play casual or don't PvP. If SE wants to improve ranked play, they'll have to make ranking up harder, not easier, so it's not going to be your cup of tea.

[Amelimie]

The real problem is the matching making of jobs, needs to change to tank, healer 2 melee 1 ranged. This way at least there's more skill to ranked. wont even go on about job balance we have to live with it for months, paying for broken game mode GO SE you nailed making money of us!

[Oldschoolegamer38]

How about the legit players who have to deal with cheaters, win traders, and smurf accounts on the lower ranks? I say the higher the rank the more you risk, if you are that good, you should play mandatory 5 matches a day. and if you lose a match you go down a rank ( e.g. diamond 4 to diamond 3). If you do not play a PvP match that you lose all-stars. if your crystal and you lose a single match or don't play the required matches that day, you fall out of crystal rank. so there is no hiding out until you have to play a match no win trading or anything else, if there is a cheater it will be found out real fast. and for an extra measure 1 account per IP address per household. do not care if multiple ppl are playing in the same house. It will weed out alot of crap that is going on right now.