Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
I had never seen a single bug for myself in years of playing before covid. I forget where I saw this but I remember there were over 100 people testing the game to find bugs.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...9&d=1613761434

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5507820
The one time I encountered a bug since I started was... well, with the current "0 bidders/winner is 0" issue, as the plot I bid on for relocating was hit with it. People really do underestimate just how much work goes into a game (MMOs are even worse in that regard, obviously), and how many bugs do, in fact, get squashed before release (or open alpha/beta). Expecting no bugs to ever get through is... well, I have a lot of not-so-nice words for it, but I'll settle on "naive."

Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
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As you and others have mentioned, I could see a PTR just for mechanics, fair enough... divorcing that from everything else though, and maintaining it... Honestly, I don't see the the gain outweighing the work expended, no. More testing is never a bad thing, but it gets to a point where there's only so much you can test in closed environments and you just have to release it... and possibly still end up with a potentially serious bug on live, even with a PTR... But, uh, I feel weird (as a laymen) saying that to someone who actually knows how this works, ha.

Anyway, it just gets my goat when people throw around words like "lazy" when that doesn't apply here. As I've said before, people can express discontent, but how you do it matters... Something I don't think certain posters OP will ever accept.