Making yet another post about this because of lazy devs

[KizuyaKatogami]

They said nothing of the sort (considering the stream was in Japanese), and they were looking at the niconico livechat monitors. You don't know what was being said on those at the time. But you can't presume any malice there.

? You act like translations don’t exist. People have already translated the stream. Also weird to assume that no one here can understand japanese lol. Considering it was right when they showed off the karen and 2b hair and they were laughing over the pretend the ears are there….yeah i’ll presume it lol. Maybe not malice persay as that’s a fairy harsh word, but lack of caring for sure.

[Shibi]

? You act like translations don’t exist. People have already translated the stream. Also weird to assume that no one here can understand japanese lol.

I know Japanese. This is what he said, from the FFXIV translation discord.



He did NOT say

“just pretend they’re there.”

We need a PTR, but sheesh, don't twist their words.

[Kaurhz]

I know Japanese. This is what he said, from the FFXIV translation discord.

He did NOT say



We need a PTR, but sheesh, don't twist their words.

Simon Says is a popular game, after all.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Kicking, screaming, and throwing insults does nothing to help a problem. It just creates needless drama. If you find a bug, then report it in a civil way. name-calling never gets anything productive done.

[KizuyaKatogami]

A bug like the one the OP is complaining about actually would have a high probability of being missed on a PTR as well since it's specific to an interaction with a specific skill on 1 class that is only used in PvP which in itself isn't very widely used by players of the game. The FC mate that told me about it also said it might be specific to the PS4 platform as they've been told by other BRD players on PS5 and PC that they haven't experienced it and they play the game on PS4.

The specific skill is literally the main dps skill you use. You act as though said skill didn’t just come from a major rework of all the jobs. They should have tested each and every job for the new reworked pvp gameplay and modes. I don’t see how it could be missed. It can literally be replicated in less than 30 seconds by simply playing the job how it’s intended to be played and using your main dps ability.

Kicking, screaming, and throwing insults does nothing to help a problem. It just creates needless drama. If you find a bug, then report it in a civil way. name-calling never gets anything productive done.

Well clearly being nice and patient doesnt help either if we ask the healer mains and hrothgar players lmao.Those of which have been waiting for 6 and 3 years respectfully for their changes. And look what they get.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Well clearly being nice and patient doesnt help either if we ask the healer mains and hrothgar players lmao.Those of which have been waiting for 6 and 3 years respectfully for their changes. And look what they get.

Being civil doesn't instantly translate to being nice and patient. It's very easy to report a bug and voice your concern, disappointment, or disapproval without coming off as rude.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I know Japanese. This is what he said, from the FFXIV translation discord.



He did NOT say



We need a PTR, but sheesh, don't twist their words.

Believe he said it at a latter point, but either way same issue. Again, they were laughing as they showed it off. It’s missing the point either way though, point is they’ve shown over and over now they’re lack of initiative and laziness. What am i supposed to say nicely? Please put some work and effort into your game? After 3 years of waiting can hrothgar players please not be given the short end of the stick time and time again? Politeness hasn’t gotten healers and hrothgar players anywhere, if anything it’s what’s made their problems be ignored. Maybe by causing an uproar they’ll actually be forced to do something about these issues. Either way, these bugs shouldn’t have happened. Both the housing issue and this show this patch clearly didn’t get as much testing done as h the past.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I also wouldnt necessarily call them lazy. I hate how we tend to easily overuse this word when the meaning isnt really applied here.

They're Just not focused on the things people been asking. They put a lot of time and effort on other parts of the game and should be commended but what most of the community wants is for them to apply that same level of dedication to things like Hrothgar hairs which folk have been waiting for a good while now.

Not devoting time to testing for bugs is pretty lazy. Again, i could understand if this was some obscure bug, but it’s literally tied to bard’s main skill with a 100% replication rate. The housing issue is a whole other issue of however with the amount of bugs like the crystal moving backwards in pvp, whm cure 2 bug, this bard bug etc. It truly does seem like something is wrong with the testing team.

[KageTokage]

I'd like to hope they'll address most/all of the PvP bugs as well as some glaring balance issues (WHM's LB should not charge so quickly, nor should its CC be unremovable) in the coming patch for ultimate's release.

If not, then I don't have much faith that PvP is going to be a good experience in the long term.

[KizuyaKatogami]

... People have already made the (inaccurate) claim, time and again, that we are "testing" the game for the devs because they "can't be bothered"... when FFXIV has some of the best QA I've seen in an MMO, as serious bugs rarely make it to live. Yes, rarely. The forums' personal bias towards making mountains out of ant hills is not reflective of reality, and even as someone who has never worked in game development, I can still see the difference between good QA and poor QA. People would still complain even if there was a PTR, and you all arguing in favor of a PTR know it.

I also don't care for it on a personal level, as the PTR in WoW ruined any sort of surprise; even if you avoided it yourself, chances are you would see/hear about the new content elsewhere and have it spoiled as a result. Not to mention people demanding unreasonable perfection during runs because "it was on PTR! you should have done it/looked into it!"... Well, excuse me for not wanting to spoil myself, I suppose? I love the dumpster fire runs that happen every time during the first week of a new patch here... everything is new to everyone, and we're all on the same playing field. Hilarity is inevitable.



Yeah. It's physically impossible to catch everything (even serious bugs can't always be caught!), and it's honestly amazing that anyone still tries to argue otherwise...

People complaining about the lack of love for Hrothgar (or proper instanced housing...) etc., is fair. The devs are aren't lazy though, good grief. Anytime I see someone slinging that word around, I immediately think said person is simply incapable of seeing anything beyond their own desires... such as the OP. The more and more she/he post, the more I think OP needs to do some serious self reflection, but this is unlikely to ever happen...

How is it my own desire outside of the bard issue? I already have a house, the housing bug doesn’t affect me but it still deserves to be called out. As you can see i’m not a hrothgar, the hrothgar hairs don’t directly affect me but i’m still going to call it out. No offense, but i’m not going to take advice from someone wearing clown makeup lol, or from anyone on an online forum page where we know very little about each other irl. People trying to play forum psychologist though is fun to watch.Again, this isnt some minor bug. This is a bug that renders an entire job basically immobile in pvp. The point of the content is to have fun. Cant exactly have fun when im forced to rp walk out of spawn and im immediately killed because i cant run out.