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    Making yet another post about this because of lazy devs

    Yes they’re lazy. I am so tired of wanting to enjoy bard in PvP but being absolutely unable to because of a job breaking bug that has a 100% chance of happening. It’s so obvious they didn’t test anything whatsoever in this mode and it shows. You literally get the bug by using bard’s main dps skill, and it’s incredibly noticeable. The fact it still hasn’t been fixed yet is beyond ridiculous, the fact an entire job is broken because of this is beyond ridiculous. People keep praising this patch for its “content” yet half of this content clearly shouldn’t have even made it past testing. And this is a billion dollar company?
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    While I agree that there are plenty of balancing issues and bugs in PvP that need to be addressed eventually, PvP is, in spite of its bugs, currently functional.

    It is not balanced, it is not "working as intended" in all places, but it works. Meanwhile, you have the housing disaster going on which clearly doesn't work on any level, so I also understand fully that Square would rather focus on getting the housing issues fixed with priority, then worry about PvP fixes.

    Besides, in order to roll out major changes, they usually have to take down the entire game for maintenance. Unless it involves truly catastrophic bugs, that is usually only ever done at the end of a week, Monday rolling over to Tuesday.
    Not to mention they are probably also still working on last-second balance adjustments to be ready for the next Ultimate based on the feedback and data from the last week, since once the Ultimate race has begun they will not want to take down the servers for maintenance again until it is finished (which might take longer than a week, depending on how the fight turns out).

    I hope PvP issues will get fixed as soon as possible, but honestly, I am glad they are focusing on the more pressing stuff right now. I am sure there will be some bugs fixed in 6.11 next week already, and then more once the Ultimate race is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi View Post
    While I agree that there are plenty of balancing issues and bugs in PvP that need to be addressed eventually, PvP is, in spite of its bugs, currently functional.

    It is not balanced, it is not "working as intended" in all places, but it works. Meanwhile, you have the housing disaster going on which clearly doesn't work on any level, so I also understand fully that Square would rather focus on getting the housing issues fixed with priority, then worry about PvP fixes.

    Besides, in order to roll out major changes, they usually have to take down the entire game for maintenance. Unless it involves truly catastrophic bugs, that is usually only ever done at the end of a week, Monday rolling over to Tuesday.
    Not to mention they are probably also still working on last-second balance adjustments to be ready for the next Ultimate based on the feedback and data from the last week, since once the Ultimate race has begun they will not want to take down the servers for maintenance again until it is finished (which might take longer than a week, depending on how the fight turns out).

    I hope PvP issues will get fixed as soon as possible, but honestly, I am glad they are focusing on the more pressing stuff right now. I am sure there will be some bugs fixed in 6.11 next week already, and then more once the Ultimate race is over.
    Here’s the thing though, this all should have been tested. This isn’t some super hidden happens once in a lifetime bug. If you play bard for literally 30 seconds you will see the bug. If they don’t have the time to properly test a piece of content….then don’t release the content until you do. As it is now it feels unfinished,lazy, and unplayable if you play as a bard.It’s beyond ridiculous an entire job is rendered moot because of it. The housing issue as well, should not have made it past testing if they do indeed actually rest their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Here’s the thing though, this all should have been tested. This isn’t some super hidden happens once in a lifetime bug. If you play bard for literally 30 seconds you will see the bug. If they don’t have the time to properly test a piece of content….then don’t release the content until you do. As it is now it feels unfinished,lazy, and unplayable if you play as a bard.It’s beyond ridiculous an entire job is rendered moot because of it. The housing issue as well, should not have made it past testing if they do indeed actually rest their game.
    I strongly agree, none of this should have happened in the first place.

    But alas, we are in this situation now, and if they can't get all of it fixed at once (which they apparently can't cause otherwise they would - though until we see the patch notes for 6.11 we don't know for sure, maybe that will already include at least the bugfixes for PvP), but rather only step-by-step, I'd prefer that the upcoming content works and the biggest bugs be addressed first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Yes they’re lazy. I am so tired of wanting to enjoy bard in PvP but being absolutely unable to because of a job breaking bug that has a 100% chance of happening. It’s so obvious they didn’t test anything whatsoever in this mode and it shows. You literally get the bug by using bard’s main dps skill, and it’s incredibly noticeable. The fact it still hasn’t been fixed yet is beyond ridiculous, the fact an entire job is broken because of this is beyond ridiculous. People keep praising this patch for its “content” yet half of this content clearly shouldn’t have even made it past testing. And this is a billion dollar company?
    If you think you can do better then go ahead
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    Did you file a bug report? Which glitch? This is the first I've heard of anything beyond the WM issue with multiple bards.

    Cuz you didn't specify and if you haven't filed a bug report, you are just making ANOTHER complaint thread when you already have 1 on the front page.

    Just... why...
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Did you file a bug report? Which glitch? This is the first I've heard of anything beyond the WM issue with multiple bards.

    Cuz you didn't specify and if you haven't filed a bug report, you are just making ANOTHER complaint thread when you already have 1 on the front page.

    Just... why...
    First of all yes, i’ve filed multiple big reports. Secondly, the big i’m talking about is the one where when you cast their main dps skill, it puts you in a permanent walking speed that persists even after death,sprint doesn’t help, and you’re unable to move when you use guard, with seemingly no way of getting rid of it. Why? Because these devs need to hear it constantly because clearly these complaints haven’t done anything. I’m tired of the constant laziness. I’m tired of the people excusing this. This is something you can expect from small indie companies, no pun intended this time. This is happening from a billion dollar company.
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    Wait, what's the bug? I've been playing bard for a while and I didn't catch it.

    Regardless, keep in mind that for every bug you see get released, 200 others got fixed before release. It's almost impossible to release content with 0 bugs, and I know this by experience.

    If you were to tell me this bug has been around for several patches I'd understand some people blowing up a fuse, but I'm fairly sure they only need time and some player feedback to squish this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    First of all yes, i’ve filed multiple big reports. Secondly, the big i’m talking about is the one where when you cast their main dps skill, it puts you in a permanent walking speed that persists even after death,sprint doesn’t help, and you’re unable to move when you use guard, with seemingly no way of getting rid of it. Why? Because these devs need to hear it constantly because clearly these complaints haven’t done anything. I’m tired of the constant laziness. I’m tired of the people excusing this. This is something you can expect from small indie companies, no pun intended this time. This is happening from a billion dollar company.
    I hate to break it to you, but money means nothing when it comes to bugs.

    NASA has bugs in its software, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, literally every company that writes software has bugs that get presented to users.

    If you made a bug report, did it have the correct format and information? There are reports in the section as accepted bugs and set to be addressed.

    It really feels like you are just here to find some new way to complain. EVERY thread you make is a complaint thread.
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    PvP is always being re-balanced in every patch because players find new ways to make it unfair, so I expect any issues will be fixed. I don't remember any bug reports for PvP affecting bards but there are a lot for PvE because of a problem with one of the songs when there are multiple bards.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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