SAM GCD combo bug.

[Akantorz]

I'm making this post in an effort to educate as well as help get this fixed.

SAM has a bug that causes us to fire off 2 Hyosetsu instead of Hyosetsu>Mangetsu, despite having the icon for Mangetsu for the second hit.

This helps me realize why people were talking about double-bind when, on paper, it should not be possible.

Also, for all classes, Purify does not work as written, we're suppose to get an immunity buff to CC for 3 seconds after pressing it and we don't. Please continue to let SE know about this issue fellow PvPers. Thanks!

[Nanne]

Purify does work but the buff you get isn't instant so any CC that lands in that small moment between using Purify and the buff appearing still go through

[Sidamel]

And then you are in CC despite being purify running - lol.

[Akantorz]

Purify does work but the buff you get isn't instant so any CC that lands in that small moment between using Purify and the buff appearing still go through

It doesn't, if you use purify at the wolves den pier, you don't get the immunity at all.
Trust me, I've been practicing on the training dummies and it never gives you the buff, but you can clearly see the buff for the shield.
It doesn't work.

[ReiganCross]

It doesn't, if you use purify at the wolves den pier, you don't get the immunity at all.
Trust me, I've been practicing on the training dummies and it never gives you the buff, but you can clearly see the buff for the shield.
It doesn't work.

You might not get the CC protection because in order to GET the protection, Purify needs to clear a CC and if the game understands this too late, you'll end up using Purify on nothing because the CC wore off anyways, because some CCs are ungodly short and fall under the server response time.

But also, yeah, there is the issue where the server takes its sweet time applying the buff, and people are spamming CCs on you 3 hours in advance, so you'll see your Purify on 29s Cooldown, but you're still under CC even though you should be clear until it becomes at least 25s. This can also happen with Guard where you'll put up a Guard because you just charged in, but because the CC was understood to be there before you pressed it, you'll be CC'd ON GUARD, WHILE THE ANIMATION IS PLAYING AND THE COOLDOWN IS RUNNING!

[Akantorz]

You might not get the CC protection because in order to GET the protection, Purify needs to clear a CC and if the game understands this too late, you'll end up using Purify on nothing because the CC wore off anyways, because some CCs are ungodly short and fall under the server response time.

But also, yeah, there is the issue where the server takes its sweet time applying the buff, and people are spamming CCs on you 3 hours in advance, so you'll see your Purify on 29s Cooldown, but you're still under CC even though you should be clear until it becomes at least 25s. This can also happen with Guard where you'll put up a Guard because you just charged in, but because the CC was understood to be there before you pressed it, you'll be CC'd ON GUARD, WHILE THE ANIMATION IS PLAYING AND THE COOLDOWN IS RUNNING!

Gotcha the text reads as though you should be getting the buff regardless, so I do think you should get it regardless if these CC abilities are gonna be that much of a problem.

[ReiganCross]

Gotcha the text reads as though you should be getting the buff regardless, so I do think you should get it regardless if these CC abilities are gonna be that much of a problem.

Yeah, essentially make Purify double as Fetter Ward that you can activate pre-emptively instead of responsively. It used to be a staple of Melee play before 6.1 to just Fetter Ward before jumping in, and that was the window where you're allowed to burst before you needed to jump back to return to neutral/ranged play. It would be pretty sweet if Purify would fill that gap once again just by giving you Resilience on button-press instead of waiting for a condition to happen (It would also improve responsiveness dramatically since the server won't need to check for a conditional in order to apply a buff.)

Ideally Guard would be that Fetter Ward, but Guard doesn't allow you to burst in their team now, does it?

[Akantorz]

Yeah, essentially make Purify double as Fetter Ward that you can activate pre-emptively instead of responsively. It used to be a staple of Melee play before 6.1 to just Fetter Ward before jumping in, and that was the window where you're allowed to burst before you needed to jump back to return to neutral/ranged play. It would be pretty sweet if Purify would fill that gap once again just by giving you Resilience on button-press instead of waiting for a condition to happen (It would also improve responsiveness dramatically since the server won't need to check for a conditional in order to apply a buff.)

Ideally Guard would be that Fetter Ward, but Guard doesn't allow you to burst in their team now, does it?

It also would help with people complaining about classes that they can't get away from. Sure SAM would be harder to kill with, but would be easier to survive as well, so I'd be okay with that.

[Sidamel]

In short they added mechanics the client can't really support properly.