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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbr View Post
    I generally don't like using rescue unless it's part of an agreed upon strat.
    Rescue is usualy needed when the strat of a player is causing him to get into problems. With decent players you wont need to use it in most of the cases. Sure, randomness can sometimes cause issues because mechanics allow a combo to be made, but even here most decent players can still manage to get boss attention away and avoid this combo. Rescue is realy a tool to negate a mistake. And no matter how good the player, everyone will eventualy make a mistake. And if its a big one (you can have a bad day), rescue will do its job.

    But thats why you dont need a strat to use it, its to ensure your teammate can continue in case of a mistake. Even without strat, a life saver is always welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    You may have enjoyed the Swtor "rescue". Maahhh that skill was fricken amazing!

    It worked both vertically and horizontally allowing healer to pull someone up over stuffs or could be used to skip entire sections of Flashpoints (dungeons).
    I never played it, but im aware that in some games certain mechanics can sometimes be taken to the extreme. AGDQ does often show such things.

    But note that in an MMO, even small exploits can often break balance as some players will make this the standard. And that sadly has to be avoided for most content. Luckily as far as i know FF doesnt have existing issues with rescue anyway. Which does enable rescue to be stronger (and create less extreme methods of exploiting it to get an advantage). Its just doesn to the method it can be done, anything involving DPS however is generaly a bad idea, yet at the same time, dps is normaly a reward for good plays.

    The hots example i ment made a player unstoppable (clears any CC on the player) and was also an instant cast. I can imagine that removing all CC (mass esuna) could make it more powerful and get players to use it more often on beginner levels since its then not just for pulling out of AoE's. But even then, its only a mitigation tool in case of a player making a mistake. Although a player might take this deliberately in a well organized team, which makes it a risk/reward thing that in well organized teams must be used. But then again, when going for the hardest trials... i think this is acceptable. Those trials already require excelent knowledge and can be this punishing. If such 'exploit' can be used there, i think it would be a succesful upgrade. In the end, players will have the practice of the tool well ahead of time.
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    Even without strat, a life saver is always welcome.
    It's not always welcome, just like advice isn't always welcome when provided. Given the nature of it you can often do more harm than good, not to mention the people who use it to troll or cause problems. Even if it doesn't resolve in a death it's not always welcome to have someone yank your character away and put it somewhere else with no input or ability to counter from you.

    Give us a way to disable it being used on us in settings or only by friends and it'll solve a lot of issues. You don't need to have it so you can yank random players around for fun.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's not always welcome, just like advice isn't always welcome when provided. Given the nature of it you can often do more harm than good, not to mention the people who use it to troll or cause problems. Even if it doesn't resolve in a death it's not always welcome to have someone yank your character away and put it somewhere else with no input or ability to counter from you.

    Give us a way to disable it being used on us in settings or only by friends and it'll solve a lot of issues. You don't need to have it so you can yank random players around for fun.
    Wait, are you telling me that in a video game, people can make mistakes? How dare they!
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