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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Despite how many times I've been yanked out of danger a split second before I myself hit Aetherial Manipulation anyway... never get rid of Rescue, it's far too unique and valuable a tool.

    Your character is not YOU, there is no 'violation' going on here, or you'll need to complain about knockback attacks as well.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Despite how many times I've been yanked out of danger a split second before I myself hit Aetherial Manipulation anyway... never get rid of Rescue, it's far too unique and valuable a tool.

    Your character is not YOU, there is no 'violation' going on here, or you'll need to complain about knockback attacks as well.
    I have never seen it used effectively, ever. All I've ever seen is it being used to troll, harass, and kill other players by healers that think it's a fun joke to pull a random player into a one shot mechanic or a pit.
    Knockback attacks have nothing to do with this, it's not another player dictating where you are with little to no input from you. If some healer wants to pull me from the other side of Hell's Keir I just die, nothing I can do unless I manage to hit arm's length fast enough. If they're going to keep it they need to at the very least allow an opt out feature so you can't be moved by people who aren't on your friends list. I'm sick of getting pulled into one shots and having to sit on the ground while the healer has a chuckle and eventually decides to res me.
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I have never seen it used effectively, ever. All I've ever seen is it being used to troll, harass, and kill other players by healers that think it's a fun joke to pull a random player into a one shot mechanic or a pit.
    Knockback attacks have nothing to do with this, it's not another player dictating where you are with little to no input from you. If some healer wants to pull me from the other side of Hell's Keir I just die, nothing I can do unless I manage to hit arm's length fast enough. If they're going to keep it they need to at the very least allow an opt out feature so you can't be moved by people who aren't on your friends list. I'm sick of getting pulled into one shots and having to sit on the ground while the healer has a chuckle and eventually decides to res me.
    Uh... no. As said before: if recuse gets an opt-out feature it may as well be removed.

    Further just because YOU have never seen it used effectively doesn't mean several others have not.

    I've used it in Wiping City to save people from being one-shotted on the spider boss.
    I've used it to move a new player out of a one shot mechanic.
    I've used it to allow my DRG to greed TWICE in Sycrus tower.
    I've been yanked over to a safe spot by my healer when I was confused on my directions
    And I've also been the DPS who was 100% fine and greeding but my healer didn't know and pulled me early.

    Rescue is fine. If it needs ANYTHING it needs a reduction in lag so we can time it better.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    Uh... no. As said before: if recuse gets an opt-out feature it may as well be removed.

    Further just because YOU have never seen it used effectively doesn't mean several others have not.

    I've used it in Wiping City to save people from being one-shotted on the spider boss.
    I've used it to move a new player out of a one shot mechanic.
    I've used it to allow my DRG to greed TWICE in Sycrus tower.
    I've been yanked over to a safe spot by my healer when I was confused on my directions
    And I've also been the DPS who was 100% fine and greeding but my healer didn't know and pulled me early.

    Rescue is fine. If it needs ANYTHING it needs a reduction in lag so we can time it better.
    How does that do anything to prevent the abuse that happens from the skill?
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    How does that do anything to prevent the abuse that happens from the skill?
    I'll take complaints about Rescue after there's a system in place to prevent DPS "abusing" the party by being bad at their jobs and failing DPS checks. Because there isn't any, and that has a higher wipe rate than a bad Rescue.
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I have never seen it used effectively, ever. All I've ever seen is it being used to troll, harass, and kill other players by healers that think it's a fun joke to pull a random player into a one shot mechanic or a pit.
    Knockback attacks have nothing to do with this, it's not another player dictating where you are with little to no input from you. If some healer wants to pull me from the other side of Hell's Keir I just die, nothing I can do unless I manage to hit arm's length fast enough. If they're going to keep it they need to at the very least allow an opt out feature so you can't be moved by people who aren't on your friends list. I'm sick of getting pulled into one shots and having to sit on the ground while the healer has a chuckle and eventually decides to res me.
    Maybe its the server your on? I never see this type of behavior.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I have never seen it used effectively, ever. All I've ever seen is it being used to troll, harass, and kill other players by healers that think it's a fun joke to pull a random player into a one shot mechanic or a pit.
    Knockback attacks have nothing to do with this, it's not another player dictating where you are with little to no input from you. If some healer wants to pull me from the other side of Hell's Keir I just die, nothing I can do unless I manage to hit arm's length fast enough. If they're going to keep it they need to at the very least allow an opt out feature so you can't be moved by people who aren't on your friends list. I'm sick of getting pulled into one shots and having to sit on the ground while the healer has a chuckle and eventually decides to res me.
    That's because either you've made up your mind and you're not interested in giving the ability a fair shake, or your simply not running real content with players that are able and willing to think on their feet.

    Plenty of decent uses have been listed here. It was practically a mandatory ability for the main O12S II strat and I personally got value out of it occasionally on weekly clears if someone got caught napping.

    IMHO the ability could and should be executed much better than it is. But then given the state of healers as a whole, that's not very likely to happen sadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    What good does Rescue do me in P2S limit cut or overflow? P3S FoF? Nados? P4S Act II? Act IV?
    The most common usage for me lately has been P3S Darkened fire when my partner forgets to stack with me.

    It's got some value in Endsinger EX as well.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 05-02-2022 at 06:45 PM.
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