Rescue Needs to GO

[Sebazy]

I have never seen it used effectively, ever. All I've ever seen is it being used to troll, harass, and kill other players by healers that think it's a fun joke to pull a random player into a one shot mechanic or a pit.
Knockback attacks have nothing to do with this, it's not another player dictating where you are with little to no input from you. If some healer wants to pull me from the other side of Hell's Keir I just die, nothing I can do unless I manage to hit arm's length fast enough. If they're going to keep it they need to at the very least allow an opt out feature so you can't be moved by people who aren't on your friends list. I'm sick of getting pulled into one shots and having to sit on the ground while the healer has a chuckle and eventually decides to res me.

That's because either you've made up your mind and you're not interested in giving the ability a fair shake, or your simply not running real content with players that are able and willing to think on their feet.

Plenty of decent uses have been listed here. It was practically a mandatory ability for the main O12S II strat and I personally got value out of it occasionally on weekly clears if someone got caught napping.

IMHO the ability could and should be executed much better than it is. But then given the state of healers as a whole, that's not very likely to happen sadly.

What good does Rescue do me in P2S limit cut or overflow? P3S FoF? Nados? P4S Act II? Act IV?

The most common usage for me lately has been P3S Darkened fire when my partner forgets to stack with me.

It's got some value in Endsinger EX as well.

[MPNZ]

It actually just needs to have invincibility frames, and maybe coded to avoid players falling off ledges too. Adding charges would be like a good idea too

[UkcsAlias]

It actually just needs to have invincibility frames

Depending on how those frames work, this might be quite abusable. But there are probably ways to cover this so strong (basicly instakilling) boss attacks might still get through, probably using some very strong resistances with a little heal.

For players falling off ledges, you could make it in such way that players are always ensured to properly land, if there is no room in front of the healer, it would then just take the last healer position which they can stand on. And if that was removed, take the next position the healer can stand, if the healer died in such way the corpse isnt reachable, during the pull, undo the call (if this appears glitchy, just accept it. its a fallback against trolling).

Charges on that would probably make the ability broken in balance. You still need to have a large interval between uses to keep it balanced. I think that for 2 charges a 3min CD (instead of a shorter one, because while you have a use, it charges another one), and 1min between uses (which is a reduction in time, but still long enough to effectively make it unspammable) on that could work. But this also brings the issue, as it takes 6 minutes to recharge when fully drained. 6 minutes is a lot on that (and even with 2min for a charge, its 4 minutes. but already means that the 2min are very often going to trigger in a fight). And when it matters, you often can still only save 1 person. And most wipe mechanics already have an interval longer than 2 minutes to begin with.
But the thing is, this ability should become more popular, and also be more gracefull towards learning players. Extra charges is on that a good way to still always keep that extra charge remaining, just in case.

[Semirhage]

The problem with making Rescue opt-out is that -everyone- is a pro-gamer ultra Chad who knows better than that dumb silly healer, and so everyone will opt-out. May as well just delete the skill.

[QooEr]

The problem with making Rescue opt-out is that -everyone- is a pro-gamer ultra Chad who knows better than that dumb silly healer, and so everyone will opt-out. May as well just delete the skill.

the actual pro gamer ultra chads come up with rescue uptime strats like with e5s pillars so not really.

[Semirhage]

the actual pro gamer ultra chads come up with rescue uptime strats like with e5s pillars so not really.

I meant that everyone thinks they know better than the healer, whether they actually do or not.

[QooEr]

I meant that everyone thinks they know better than the healer, whether they actually do or not.

everyone thinks they know better than anyone else. if they want to opt out of rescue and die to greed, i say let them. its not My dps, except for that 1 rez gcd i guess.

in my experience raiding with, you know, actual competent people, rescue is very appreciated.

[Chopstix]

-1!

How else am i supposed to drag a stubborn tank to the 2nd pack of mobs? or silly ranged into my asylum/sacred soil?

ppl to their death that annoy the hell out of me?

[ty_taurus]

People are really out here treating occasional screw ups like they're catastrophic game issues. Our community really needs to wake up and remember that this is a video game, and in video games, you fail sometimes. It's natural. It's not a problem that needs to be fixed. People make mistakes in video games! News at 11.

[NobleWinter]

You aren't a very "experienced" healer if you don't run pug content and constantly see places where Rescue would be useful. If you never touch the button you have definitely missed opportunities to be better at your job. It requires enough foresight to be in the right place for a mechanic and also identify someone else who is not and cannot move to the correct position in time. You have to be aware of how far skills like Elusive Jump on DRG go to know they are greeding with the option to be safe. Rescue is wonderful. I have saved people from being tossed off Leviathan, Titan, Diamond Weapon, Sophia, and even from death in the occasional dungeon battle where push mechanics are used. I've cancelled animation lock for LB3 to move DPS out of unavoidable aoes and dragged my conhealer to safety more times than I can count. The skill is a godsend but it takes practice. Just let people practice and report anyone who you think is being malicious. It's not the end of the world.