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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    I guess, it will not be possible to get "transformations" in FF14 without a huge effort. The problem is, the concepts between FF14 and WoW how the characters are designed are very different.

    In WoW, there are no "real" clothes, except weapons, shoulders and the helm. It means, if you wear shoes then you character model may be altered in a generic way. But in most cases, shoes are only different texures without character model alteration. This approach has three advantages: almost no clipping, except shoulders, helm and weapons. You can introduce new races very quickly without much hassle. And because clothes are basically only textures, it runs very fast. But this approach is very unflexible. It is very bad for glam because only textures are swapped and nothing more. And some clothes may look very ugly on some races because they will be stretched in a very strange way.

    FF14 has "real" clothes. It is great for glam and very detailed clothes. But the drawbacks are known: huge clipping issues and many clothes will need race specific adjustments. Newer game engines can apply clothes on a body dynamicly. Then those drawbacks would disappear. But this approach needs a good physics simulation. I doubt, that the FF14 engine can do that. And physics simulation is also not for free. It will cost performance.



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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Until they can get all the races in a relatively equal place, I don't think they should add any more races after female Hrothgar.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Shisen Akaitama
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    Imagine being able to independently choose horns, or scale patterns and colours for your Au Ra... Say what you will about WoW's art style (it's not my favourite either), but they've got that over FFXIV, at the very least.
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    Erendis's Avatar
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    E'renndis Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Imagine being able to independently choose horns, or scale patterns and colours for your Au Ra... Say what you will about WoW's art style (it's not my favourite either), but they've got that over FFXIV, at the very least.
    Except in wow you need to choose from premade faces, that is you can't choose face shape, eye shape, eye colour, nose shape, jaw shape, mouth shape, lip colour separately.

    Forgot about iris size.
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    Last edited by Erendis; 04-20-2022 at 06:55 PM.

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    Lala Felon
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    Let's give the Hroth some ears first.
    After that, let's give the Bunnys some hats.

    More races, even if they are just reaper-type-glams, will just draw drama and cries of "why can't I wear this helmet, or that hair do?" or "Can we please turn off our dragon tails so we can wear capes and dresses?"

    Yep, let's finish the poor Hroth and Bunnies first.
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    Dusk Himmel
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    honestly the WoW dragons look pretty bad looks like something from second life
    like why make dragons when you had cool snake people
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    honestly the WoW dragons look pretty bad looks like something from second life
    like why make dragons when you had cool snake people
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Another example of why the Au Ra got cheated from their concept art. Our draconic race is nowhere near draconic enough, though I doubt a full dragon look like that wow one would be as good in ff14's engine...and developer care if the viera/hrothgar is any example

    Welp, this why mods exist.

    perhaps in 4 years time or so when female hrothgar have come out and gotten fixed. Then we might see better character customisation inc properly draconic au ra not just hyurs with horns and a tail.

    idk, i wont be playing then unless they dramatically reverse course on job design after 6.2 and start fixing some of the masses of long term problems they been ignoring.
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Another example of why the Au Ra got cheated from their concept art. Our draconic race is nowhere near draconic enough, though I doubt a full dragon look like that wow one would be as good in ff14's engine...and developer care if the viera/hrothgar is any example

    Welp, this why mods exist.

    perhaps in 4 years time or so when female hrothgar have come out and gotten fixed. Then we might see better character customisation inc properly draconic au ra not just hyurs with horns and a tail.

    idk, i wont be playing then unless they dramatically reverse course on job design after 6.2 and start fixing some of the masses of long term problems they been ignoring.
    They also had other draconic races from previous FF titles but I suppose at the time they wanted something that fit a more human mold. Burmecians from FFIX looked reptillian/draconic to me but their proportions and faces weren't really human though part the proportions could be attributed to the game's more cartoonish art style. FFTA2 had a race called Gria which had horns that protruded vertically from their head and also had wings on their back. Though given their issues with Miqo'te tails the wings on the Gria would have been 1000 times worse.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Tbh the dragon race looks really bad and derpy imo, they manage to look too human and also too much dragon they just enter a bizarro territory.
    Apparently they're tied to one class only too, if you can just focus on that ( and they seem to have no gear visually other than a chest piece? ) then yeah you can do some crazy stuff.
    But imo the result is just bad.

    Then again honestly I just don't care about dragons, they're the most overrated fantasy race ever imo.
    I do like the story in Heavensward revolving around them but not because they're dragons but because it's a good story.
    My biggest issue with Game of Thrones tho was how much of a focus the dragons became I felt like it kinda ruined the show, I just dunno what the hype about them in particular is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retrisar View Post
    WoW armors change tho, they not looking now like cheap latex stretched with different texture.

    You don't think that's what the chest and leg piece looks like?
    They do have more three dimensionality nowadays with some pieces but for the most part it still looks painted on.
    ESO has this issue too.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 04-20-2022 at 06:17 PM.

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