Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
Dancer is supposed to be the big support and remains higher than MCH.
RDM also has stronger res and Magick Barrier on top of Addle but is higher than SMN.
Support = Less damage isn't true.

I think you missread me. In what examples I provided, Bishop and Rook have both the same DPS output on a single target.
Only their side bonuses changes, meaning in AoE situation you would always consider Bishop, but in Single Target situations, there is a small additional layer to think about.
Your DPS will not suffer if you make the bad decision but your team will appreciate it.
And that's an issue with the balancing. Summoner and Dancer are supports yes but you have to account for how much simpler they are than the alternatives(namely Red Mage and Bard). The whacky balancing is a whole other issue versus the intent. Generally it's usually the simpler the class and the more support they have, the weaker they'll be. If it's a complex class with slight support(Reaper/Monk), it'll still be higher. If it's a high support and complex...well we saw that with Summoner going super high up in the charts and that wasn't exactly the intention given how it had to be changed over and over again. That's why the innate lack of support on Black Mage and Samurai is what is supposed to shoot either of them to the highest or second highest DPS, lack of support. Of course given how weird the balancing is between the jobs now...well it leads to this sort of thing where Red Mage is somehow quite powerful nowadays for what it is when it used to be the weakest in Stormblood because of how overly powerful the support kit was.

Oh I see. I suppose it could work but at that point that's changing the turrets and the upgrades entirely. I guess it wouldn't hurt too much though so I'll just say it's a side path that I don't mind if it goes that way. Whether it's keeping it simple like the old days but keeping the upgrade with the automatons in mind, or changing the turrets elsewhere, it's at least something.