Garo Glam - no Viera support

[Evergrey]

after 3 years I gave up on headgear support. SE really does not care about that stuff.

And the limitations would've been worse if it wasn't for employees dedication to work on adding some during their free time.

[Heavenchild]

@SherlottaEryut: I really hope they adjust the pvp helmet. There is no other piece that can complete this set, than the original helmet.

@Midareyukki: For Miqote a lot of helmets just let their ears disappear. And that's totally fine. I was long time a Miqote and I personally never heard a Miqote that complained about that.
I am not sure why they can't do the same thing for Viera. If people don't like it without the ears, they can just 'display off' the helmet.
But I think most people would just be happy to be back in or part of the hat-gang. :3

Maybe a bigger problem than the ears is the fact that the headpieces do something with the hair. They get squished somehow.
So the hair would have to be adjusted for the headpieces. (I don't know the problem for fullhelmets, which let all hair disappear)
But maybe there are more problems, that we don't know.

At least, when we look at the Au'Ra, they have racespecific hairstyles and special headfeatures, too. But when they were released with HW they were adjusted, weren't they?
I don't know why SE decided to release Viera so limited and supported them not much for a long time. But I hope this is going to change now. I really hope it. :3

I also hope that they do something about the problematic for Hroth players, too. But I am not much into that topic, because I never played them.
From my position I would guess, that it maybe would be better to create special things for Hroth, than try to adjust for example the existing hairstyles, because most of them won't look so good at them.
I don't know how Hroth players think about this.

At least we didn't talk much about the topic I asked for.

So I think: It's really not so good, when limitations go so far that players can't take part in event activities the same way.
In the end we just talk here about 'a game'. So we shouldn't be too serious. But to be limitated during an event feels kinda unsatisfying for me.
I see so many people in that fun powerrangerlike look. And 2 races (1 race?) can't just be part of this.

So I hope SE maybe think about this and find some solutions for the future. :3

But! All in all I really like what they did for us with 6.1!
So many cool things.

[Karowolus]

I don't really get why it doesn't show on Viera when it hides everything. It just feels like the devs were too lazy to change some metadata or something. It works on everybody else. But not Viera? Seems a bit well.. Stupid if you ask me given Viera use Midlander Bodies and only have a unique head. Just hide the ears. I don't see what Squenix' problem with that sentiment is when they do it all the time with other helmets on other races.

[MsQi]

PS: Ofc the same is with Hrothgar

Last I checked Hrothgar could use the helmets.

[Heavenchild]

Last I checked Hrothgar could use the helmets.

Oh, that's good. So..., I think just the Bunnys stand aside. :')

[Evergrey]

I don't really get why it doesn't show on Viera when it hides everything. It just feels like the devs were too lazy to change some metadata or something. It works on everybody else. But not Viera? Seems a bit well.. Stupid if you ask me given Viera use Midlander Bodies and only have a unique head. Just hide the ears. I don't see what Squenix' problem with that sentiment is when they do it all the time with other helmets on other races.

Hmm..
Only thing I can think of is perhaps SE don't want to hide the ears to keep their trademark racial feature.
Like, All the other races (except humans who doesn't really share much difference inbetween (sorry Elezeen with your ears)) still have their tails showing.
But since Viera doesn't they'd just be "humans" if they hid the ears.

This thought came from how SE don't want to get rid of the job restrictions with armour for glamour.
They want to keep the identity of each job intact.

But I agree with you.
Why not just hide the ears for them?
It's an event from a TV show so if one would really want to embrace the character of its origin nothing should poke out of the helmets.
But I understand that the Garo helmets, with their "horns" and spikes most likely would clip a lot on big fluffy bunny ears.
And SE when they don't want things to clip they really want to avoid it.

[Evergrey]

Oh, that's good. So..., I think just the Bunnys stand aside. :')

Well, just because Hrothgars can wear, more?, helmets than Viera doesn't necessarily make it a good thing.
Like many helmets completely alter the shape of the head and shrinks the head.
Looks really odd (and sometimes funny).

[Heavenchild]

Well, just because Hrothgars can wear, more?, helmets than Viera doesn't necessarily make it a good thing.
Like many helmets completely alter the shape of the head and shrinks the head.
Looks really odd (and sometimes funny).

In this topic yes. This topic is just about limitaions during event like Garo atm. And Viera can't take part in, because that Garo powerrangerlike look needs the 'full' gear set.
Viera can't wear the fullhelmets and the set without the helmet just looks strange and incomplete.

Most people don't talk about the topic I asked for. That's why I've decided to withdraw from this conversation now. Wish you guys all a good time. :3

[Midareyukki]

Last I checked Hrothgar could use the helmets.

They can. It just isn't fitting our faces...

In this topic yes. This topic is just about limitaions during event like Garo atm. And Viera can't take part in, because that Garo powerrangerlike look needs the 'full' gear set.
Viera can't wear the fullhelmets and the set without the helmet just looks strange and incomplete.

Most people don't talk about the topic I asked for. That's why I've decided to withdraw from this conversation now. Wish you guys all a good time. :3

Now now, don't be like that. I'm sorry for derailing the problem, but at the same time it doesn't mean you're wrong.

Hrothgar do have stuff to complain in this topic as well, from gear that doesn't fit to gear that smushes our face into a Hyur mold. BUT.

Why can't Viera wear helmets at all? This is what I find baffling, because you'd think that Hrothgar would be the ones unable to wear helmets. Yet Viera can't wear them at all... They do know ears fold, right? It's possible for them to be outfitted with helmets, so what gives? They faces won't be smushed either, so really. What's the problem?

...don't say clipping, don't say clipping, it's not an excuse, it's not... it's really not...

...it's clipping, isn't it? That's the excuse?

[Heavenchild]

@Midareyukki: It' s okay. :3

I guess they would have to adjust the hair to fit with most headpieces. And it seems like it's important to them to keep the Viera's ears.
For Miqote a lot of pieces just let the ears disappear. But they also have there tail to identify them. Viera have a humanlike body with no other racespecific parts.
But tbh..., from the side of a player...: Who cares? Really, who cares? Is it so important to be able to identify each race immediatly?
(btw there some rare pieces that hide the ears like Dwarven Cotton Petasos of Casting xd)

I think it would be better to make it like the players feel comfortable with. So..., when the ears clip in a bad way, just hide them. When I was a Miqo, I liked that biker cap a lot.
And Miqote have no ears, when they wear it. That was totally fine. And thb I am no big fan of that Miqote tail, that often clips though glam in a strange way.
If humans would have been more handsome, I would play a human. But that's a complete different topic.

I think, for events like now, they should give all races the same options. The decision not to give the Garo helmets to Viera, feels not like 'being special' with the ears.
It feels kinda like 'not belonging to'. And at least such limitations do not make Viera special. They make Viera a race people leave behind, to go back to the ones without limitations.

Wish you a nice day/night. :3