If you really hate the housing system in this game so much...

[Alaray]

I remember when people in the Tera Online forum used to do this, 'calling peoples bluff's. It was "Go on then, quit!! As if you ever really will, aahahahghahg!!!" until the majority actually did quit and the few remaining had to pay 3 and 4 times the price for the things they used to, to make up for all the lost bodies. Exact same thing happened in the Blade and Soul forum too. It's all 'You wont realllllly leave, who are you kidding!!' until you look around and only see 2 or 3 other players max in-game and no complaints in the forum anymore. No complaints, because everyone who used to try to voice what was wrong straight up gave up and left. Careful what one baits! You'd hate for it to actually happen.

Kind of, to expand on this thought a little from what the Director of Lost Ark said once in an interview (translated from Korean, and saw a clip of it from someone else's content who was going over it):

He, at least from the bit taken, explained that figuring out what was wrong with the game he designed and developed became an incredibly difficult task. At first, like a lot of people, he thought he had it all in the bag and knew exactly what to do and what players would enjoy; when proven wrong based upon the CCU of the title and comparing to other successful titles and their CCU (and playerbase in general) he felt at a loss for what to improve on "What's wrong with my vision? Where's the problems, the pain points?" and tried to look to the remainder of his community for some sort of critical feedback to start formulating a plan to fix things. However, at this stage, the only players who remained were people who liked the game as it was (despite it being incredibly unpopular and likely staring shutdown in the face) and he described frustration in that as he, himself, didn't have the answers (nor his team) and no one who played his title were able to explain what lead so many to leave in the first place as, to them, the game was fine as it was.

And he did explain that he felt jealous of the larger communities in more popular titles due to being able to have access to player feedback on what felt good, what felt bad and why.

Which is just to say -- if everyone who has a complaint, a critique, with FFXIV upped and quit and only left behind the people who were 150% satisfied, then the game itself would stagnate and struggle to improve and if the playerbase that remained is too small... then it'd lead to eventual shutdown. Imagine if 1.0 stayed just because there were people who enjoyed it, and 2.0 never happened -- the game wouldn't exist anymore, at all.

So there is, at least, truth in that player feedback and critique is valuable even from a head developer's perspective (to the point of frustration when he couldn't get that) and using the hand-wavey phrases (like the OP) would only serve to, really, hurt the game.

(Want to iterate this is just expanding on what you said, since your's is based on the players while this bit from an actual Director was a bit interesting to hear for the company's perspective as well).

[MiaShino]

[ijuakos_xqwzts]

Star Wars Galaxies (before the combat upgrade; it may not have changed, but I haven't played since then)
Wildstar

Pretty darned good housing systems. It's a shame the rest of both games couldn't keep players around.

EQ2, from what I recall, wasn't too bad, either.

[Midareyukki]

And thats why it would be great if someone from the EU/AU like yourself instead of being on NA servers like Ultros and dealing with people in the US they should change the system so you would be forced to play on your own regions servers then you won't have to deal with us. Even though its optional right now to play on your own data center and for some reason you choose to play with people you hate.

Please check your ethnocentrism at the door, you're making a fool of yourself in every thread. Besides, it's not like Americans stick to their own server either, nor is there any law prohibiting people from going to other datacenters. Every post you do is about telling EU and AU people to stay in their DC's. Your horrible bias is showing.

[MiaShino]

Star Wars Galaxies (before the combat upgrade; it may not have changed, but I haven't played since then)
Wildstar

Pretty darned good housing systems. It's a shame the rest of both games couldn't keep players around.

EQ2, from what I recall, wasn't too bad, either.

Uncertain if anyone mentioned it yet but Swtor has some darn good instanced housing too called Strongholds.

Those things are fricken huge! Would say at the least four times the size of average large. Can also own multiple Strongholds per account too. There is key system allowing you to set up invite only entrance to your housing and are able to eject unwanted persons who you have invited.

Only requirement is that you arrive on fleet and purchase the Stronghold with in game currency, then it is yours. Downside is that you must pay to unlock expansions.

[Darthgummibear]

Then cool your jets and go touch some grass.

Way to deliberately miss the point.

[NanaWiloh]

MMORPGS bad at it

Try Valheim or Fallout 4 or 7 Days to Die if you are okay as single player those games offer so much more creativity than any available MMORPG.

Dragon quest builders 1 and 2 are also awesome if you got a lot of creativity.

[SturmChurro]

oh yeah why solve the issue when you can "play a different game" excuse in order to NOT solve the problem and avoid it tactic.

Exactly why so many glaring issues this game has aren't being fixed. I just find it hilarious, because just the other day I was talking about how many players in this community just brush aside criticism or issues with the game, and tell others to "go play something else".

[Escence]

...might I offer alternatives?

* No Man's Sky
* Black Desert Online
* Elder Scrolls Online
* Animal Crossing: New Horizons
* Phantasy Star Online 2
* Fallout 76

Or how about Yoshi P actually fixes the housing system instead of band aid fixes

[Jojoya]

You forgot to put RIFT on the list. It's still out there and Dimensions (their housing system) are a lot of fun even if the rest of the game is mediocre (not bad, just not good).

Yes, tell everyone to go play something else because of one aspect being grossly inadequate. That has worked out so well for other companies in the past.

Yet there are a lot of players threatening to quit solely because of housing.

If housing is that important to them and they really don't care about the rest of the game, then trying one of the others would appear to be good advice for those specific players.

Exactly why so many glaring issues this game has aren't being fixed. I just find it hilarious, because just the other day I was talking about how many players in this community just brush aside criticism or issues with the game, and tell others to "go play something else".

Sometimes go play something else is the right decision.

That's why I'm here now instead of still stuck in WoW hell. Warlords of Draenor was a mess so I started playing other games, this being one of them. It took me two expansions to accept that I just did not enjoy Wow anymore while I was having a lot of fun with FFXIV so I dropped WoW and made this my main game. It ended up a good choice for me.

Not every game is going to appeal to everyone. If someone can't do anything but criticize the game they're playing, they really need to think about why they're playing it in the first place and whether they'd be better off elsewhere.

Or how about Yoshi P actually fixes the housing system instead of band aid fixes

I can agree with this general sentiment, but there's a problem.

What do you consider a fix? Would all players agree it's a fix or would their be some who felt it made housing worse?

Looking at the debate of ward versus instanced housing that recurs regularly over in the Housing subforum, players do not agree on what would fix the system.

There's also the possibility a fix they agree on would be not be financially feasible. People tend to forget there's a lot more to business expense then loading up a program on a computer and inputting a few lines of code.