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    Race specific traits?

    I'm curious how everyone would feel about race specific traits? Games like ESO already have racial skills such as Acrobat for Wood Elf that Decreases your fall damage taken by 10%. obviously it shouldn't be anything major such as extra spells but something simple that could make choosing your race a bit more than "this one looks the cutest"
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    No, thank you.
    I prefer that looking cute or badass is the only consideration you need for picking a cute or badass looking character.
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    No, thank you.
    I prefer that looking cute or badass is the only consideration you need for picking a cute or badass looking character.
    i mean hey thats why i chose mine ^^ twas just a random thought and i wanted to get others opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soma_Farkreath View Post
    I'm curious how everyone would feel about race specific traits? Games like ESO already have racial skills such as Acrobat for Wood Elf that Decreases your fall damage taken by 10%. obviously it shouldn't be anything major such as extra spells but something simple that could make choosing your race a bit more than "this one looks the cutest"
    except the ESO team has taken painful steps to erase the amount of impact those racial traits have, if it wasnt for the fact that the addition of race traits is carryover from the rest of the elder scrolls games, they wouldn't have given them racial passives at all. so no thank you.
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    As long as they give players an advantage when it comes to combat or tradecraft.
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    FFXI had it & it resulted on such horrendous pre-determined job/class selection based on race & that influenced player’s mindset to enforce “Meta” which was truly awful

    (E.g Elvaans had unusual low accuracy in enchange for higher charisma & strength/ Mithras higher dexterity & Agi i think over intelligence & Galkas very low MP in exchange for HP…..you could sort of make senses what jobs may ought to resonate best with certain races).

    On the other hand I embrace ESO’s racial traits in which it doesn’t undermine or outperform other jobs but just a slight bonus (without repercussions) to their respected racial identity.

    This I can sort of foresee to be a cool assest to serve as a minor bonus without having one over the other branded as a “Meta” by elite players (without disrespecting) as FFXI & WoW similarly did.
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    In Guild Wars 2, each race has 5 racial skills (equitable in the skill slots not tied to your weapon attacks) but they either have very long cooldowns, incredibly weak damage, or both. While it's a fun bit of flavour to use while leveling, the devs nerf them heavily if they even slightly look like they might become useful in group content to prevent any race from become more meta than the others.

    Having to compromise on playing the character you want to play or risk being at a disadvantage doesn't sound fun, so I'd prefer no combat racial skills/passives. I'd prefer armour inspired by the different cultures of the races instead, or more unique emotes (like /dance).
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    Honestly, while I would be fine with flavor racials that didn't impact combat, I wouldn't trust the devs to get them right. Their QA and ability design has been rather poor lately.
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    Racial traits are cool, but they don't really make sense as something added later.
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    Last edited by MsQi; 04-20-2022 at 09:12 AM.
    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    FFXI had it & it resulted on such horrendous pre-determined job/class selection based on race & that influenced player’s mindset to enforce “Meta” which was truly awful

    (E.g Elvaans had unusual low accuracy in enchange for higher charisma & strength/ Mithras higher dexterity & Agi i think over intelligence & Galkas very low MP in exchange for HP…..you could sort of make senses what jobs may ought to resonate best with certain races).

    On the other hand I embrace ESO’s racial traits in which it doesn’t undermine or outperform other jobs but just a slight bonus (without repercussions) to their respected racial identity.

    This I can sort of foresee to be a cool assest to serve as a minor bonus without having one over the other branded as a “Meta” by elite players (without disrespecting) as FFXI & WoW similarly did.
    FFXIV 1.0 had this too but it was less relevant and that choice of Guardian deity better influenced stats (via elemental attributes), which worked just as poorly. Between that and the aforementioned problems that FFXI's racial differences had, and you can see why Yoshi eventually scrapped the remnants of this here in FFXIV, and for good reason. It just doesn't work in practice because players choose the best outcome as the meta naturally, something Yoshi has been actively trying to eliminate or avoid in ARR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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