What's your Monitor Size?

[Laraul]

Well it's also that with TVs you typically sit farther away so the larger pixels aren't as noticeable. But without that "technical crap" we wouldn't have TVs and monitors and yeah.

That's the other problem with PC games on TVs. The text and such is designed to be read on a display near you, not far, like a TV.

The only real difference between a monitor and television is a TV has a built-in tuner, among other things right? I think a lot of what are you are stating is conjecture rather than actual experience.

My TV is not designed for use with a computer. It has no VGA port. I use a DVI to HDMI cable. My TV also has overscan which crops off the top, bottom, and sides of the image. Fortunately I can compensate by adjusting the display settings on the computer.

Screen real estate is not important within the game. At 2560x1440 you end up with an incredibly small interface. Since my TV has a native resolution of 1280x720 that's the resolution I run the game at (the resolution SE recommends). You then increase the "General Draw Quality" to 9 or 10 to improve overall appearance. GDQ at 9 or 10 will increase the quality of the DoF effect considerably.

2560x1440
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1280x720

[MoonKeeperr]

I like how everyone has there own taste in screens in here. from Tv to laptop and all above. some really great ideas to i notice.

[ispano]

The only real difference between a monitor and television is a TV has a built-in tuner, among other things right? I think a lot of what are you are stating is conjecture rather than actual experience.

My TV is not designed for use with a computer. It has no VGA port. I use a DVI to HDMI cable. My TV also has overscan which crops off the top, bottom, and sides of the image. Fortunately I can compensate by adjusting the display settings on the computer.

Screen real estate is not important within the game. At 2560x1440 you end up with an incredibly small interface. Since my TV has a native resolution of 1280x720 that's the resolution I run the game at (the resolution SE recommends). You then increase the "General Draw Quality" to 9 or 10 to improve overall appearance. GDQ at 9 or 10 will increase the quality of the DoF effect considerably.

2560x1440
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1280x720

More than just the tuner. TVs use higher Dot Pitch Panels because they are designed to be placed farther away. Also the distance you sit plays a part in how large you need the text to be to read it. Most of the time with a monitor on your desk, regardless of the size or resolution you will be able to read it. Not as much with a TV, often you have to up the text size if it's not close enough. Many TVs also have things in them, image enhancement and the like, that add input lag, which is not worth mentioning for XIV, but most certainly for other games.

And, no, this isn't conjecture. All displays have an optimal viewing distance. Reading text on a given display, assuming eyesight is not an issue, also has a certain distance where it becomes an issue. And you're more likely to be in that distance with a Monitor than you are a TV. I know some people, the family I live with for example, have it at a distance where FFXIV @ 1080, the text would be nearly or completely unreadable.

Yes, at the higher res you have a small interface, that's the point. Not all games are light on the UI like this one. An even with this one, I can keep the chat window the same "physical" size, ie not pixels, but same size if I was to measure it or something, but see much more information/chat.

I use monitors, I like high resolution displays and do not like TVs for gaming. You don't have to agree, nothing wrong with that. But the things above are correct.

[ArkNova]

42 inch HD3D played the game in 3D a few times but had to lower resolution to 720.

[Emulord]

Same performance? You've either seen poor monitors or really expensive TVs. A monitor will give the user a much more detailed picture for computing. But if you play really far away, then it actually isn't a problem. Though I suspect computing isn't as comfortable.

Anyways, I use 3x24 inch monitors with a fourth 32 inch TV above them. The ratio for my three monitors is 5760x1080.




That simply isn't true

Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

I use a 30" @ 2560x1600, won't ever go back to something smaller unless I have to.

The problem with a T.V. is that if you're sitting close to it, the images will be blurry due to the lower resolution. If you sit at an area where it will be sharp, the text will be hard to read in some games. (Due to this, Aion is barely playable for me. >.<)

generally a pc monitor is functionally superior to a TV for computing purposes. I could never get the image to display quite right on my TV, usually there is either a small black border around the image, or a small bit of the image is cut off. Neither sits well for me.

I'd like to maintain the quality of the colors/performance and the readability of texts are astonishing on both of my TVs. Maybe something is wrong with my eyes, and yes they do have bigger pixels than a classical PC monitor, but I'm 1.20m away from my primary 37" TV, and 2m away from the 50" one, and I can't even distinguish them. Actually, I feel quite more comfortable than with my former 24" SAMSUNG Monitor, even for computing, I don't even remember how I got rid of it. I would never step back for a screen under 30". BF3 in 3D with a huge field of view is amazing.

Obviously, a decent TV IS way more expensive than a PC Monitor -- I got the 37" during a bargain offer for 899$, and the 3D-Ready 50" for 2249$, the price of 5+ nice PC gaming monitors or a gaming computer, but much less than what it used to cost a couple of years ago -- and obviously if you want to play from your couch, you may need to lower the resolution to be able to read texts, especially for MMOs in which there's a lot to read. In games like AC or GTA, it is none of a problem at all for me. But assuming you can invest the price, I do claim TVs definitely are "a excellent horse to bet on".


(Sorry if my English sometimes is quite of a clumsy one, I don't master all of the typically English expressions...)

[Majidah]

I have two syncmaster T220, samsung. Widescreen sucks balls for anything but movies. 16:10 is what you want for everything else, if you ask me.

[Laraul]

I have two syncmaster T220, samsung. Widescreen sucks balls for anything but movies. 16:10 is what you want for everything else, if you ask me.

Isn't 16x10 widescreen? It's a little boxier than 16x9 but still wide.

If text appears blurry on the T.V. there is a chance you've set the display resolution higher then the television's native resolution. Thought I might point that out.

[Leyza]

Nope, the resolution defaulted to it. Then again, it's not exactly a newer T.V. (~20 inch screen running 1360x768, lower than my old Inspiron 1545's resolution.)

[ispano]

I'd like to maintain the quality of the colors/performance and the readability of texts are astonishing on both of my TVs. Maybe something is wrong with my eyes, and yes they do have bigger pixels than a classical PC monitor, but I'm 1.20m away from my primary 37" TV, and 2m away from the 50" one, and I can't even distinguish them. Actually, I feel quite more comfortable than with my former 24" SAMSUNG Monitor, even for computing, I don't even remember how I got rid of it. I would never step back for a screen under 30". BF3 in 3D with a huge field of view is amazing.

Obviously, a decent TV IS way more expensive than a PC Monitor -- I got the 37" during a bargain offer for 899$, and the 3D-Ready 50" for 2249$, the price of 5+ nice PC gaming monitors or a gaming computer, but much less than what it used to cost a couple of years ago -- and obviously if you want to play from your couch, you may need to lower the resolution to be able to read texts, especially for MMOs in which there's a lot to read. In games like AC or GTA, it is none of a problem at all for me. But assuming you can invest the price, I do claim TVs definitely are "a excellent horse to bet on".


(Sorry if my English sometimes is quite of a clumsy one, I don't master all of the typically English expressions...)

For most games, the field of view is based on the Display Ratio, so you would be correct that a 1920x1080 display would have a bit bigger FoV than my 2560x1600. Assuming they don't use a different method of course. But Monitors can easily rival TVs in cost. My 30" Monitor for example tends to run around $1500, and it's far from the most expensive 30" as well, the one I wanted was closer to $4000 :/. But this one is still really nice.

[ispano]

Isn't 16x10 widescreen? It's a little boxier than 16x9 but still wide.

If text appears blurry on the T.V. there is a chance you've set the display resolution higher then the television's native resolution. Thought I might point that out.

Or it's too far away, or it's ANY resolution that's not native. Or the TV is doing some per-processing to the image that you don't want for PC games.